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Mutiny as passengers refuse to fly until Asians are removed
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20 aug 06 | CHRISTOPHER LEAKE and ANDREW CHAPMAN

Posted on 08/20/2006 4:41:16 AM PDT by white trash redneck

British holidaymakers staged an unprecedented mutiny - refusing to allow their flight to take off until two men they feared were terrorists were forcibly removed.

The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.

Passengers told cabin crew they feared for their safety and demanded police action. Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am. Others waiting for Flight ZB 613 in the departure lounge refused to board it.

The incident fuels the row over airport security following the arrest of more than 20 people allegedly planning the suicide-bombing of transatlantic jets from the UK to America. It comes amid growing demands for passenger-profiling and selective security checks.

It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'.

The passenger revolt came as Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary was accused of using the terror crisis to make money. Government sources say he boasted to an official at the Transport Department: "Every time I appear on TV, I get a spike in sales."

The Tories said the Government's failure to reassure travellers had led the Malaga passengers to 'behave irrationally' and 'hand a victory to terrorists'.

Websites used by pilots and cabin crew were yesterday reporting further incidents. In one, two British women with young children on another flight from Spain complained about flying with a bearded Muslim even though he had been security-checked twice before boarding.

The trouble in Malaga flared last Wednesday as two British citizens in their 20s waited in the departure lounge to board the pre-dawn flight and were heard talking what passengers took to be Arabic. Worries spread after a female passenger said she had heard something that alarmed her.

Passengers noticed that, despite the heat, the pair were wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers and were regularly checking their watches.

Initially, six passengers refused to board the flight. On board the aircraft, word reached one family. To the astonishment of cabin crew, they stood up and walked off, followed quickly by others.

The Monarch pilot - a highly experienced captain - accompanied by armed Civil Guard police and airport security staff, approached the two men and took their passports.

Half an hour later, police returned and escorted the two Asian passengers off the jet.

'There was no fuss or panic'

Soon afterwards, the aircraft was cleared while police did a thorough security sweep. Nothing was found and the plane took off - three hours late and without the two men on board.

Monarch arranged for them to spend the rest of the night in an airport hotel and flew them back to Manchester later on Wednesday.

College lecturer Jo Schofield, her husband Heath and daughters Emily, 15, and Isabel, 12, were caught up in the passenger mutiny.

Mrs Schofield, 38, said: "The plane was not yet full and it became apparent that people were refusing to board. In the gate waiting area, people had been talking about these two, who looked really suspicious with their heavy clothing, scruffy, rough, appearance and long hair.

"Some of the older children, who had seen the terror alert on television, were starting to mutter things like, 'Those two look like they're bombers.'

"Then a family stood up and walked off the aircraft. They were joined by others, about eight in all. We learned later that six or seven people had refused to get on the plane.

"There was no fuss or panic. People just calmly and quietly got off the plane. There were no racist taunts or any remarks directed at the men.

"It was an eerie scene, very quiet. The children were starting to ask what was going on. We tried to play it down."

Mr Schofield, 40, an area sales manager, said: "When the men were taken off they didn't argue or say a word. They just picked up their coats and obeyed the police. They seemed resigned to the fact they were under suspicion.

"The captain and crew were very apologetic when we were asked to evacuate the plane for the security search. But there was no dissent.

"While we were waiting, everyone agreed the men looked dodgy. Some passengers were very panicky and in tears. There was a lot of talking about terrorists."

Patrick Mercer, the Tory Homeland Security spokesman, said last night: "This is a victory for terrorists. These people on the flight have been terrorised into behaving irrationally.

"For those unfortunate two men to be victimised because of the colour of their skin is just nonsense."

Monarch said last night: "The captain was concerned about the security surrounding the two gentlemen on the aircraft and the decision was taken to remove them from the flight for further security checks.

"The two passengers offloaded from the flight were later cleared by airport security and rebooked to travel back to Manchester on a later flight."

A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Malaga said: "These men had aroused suspicion because of their appearance and the fact that they were speaking in a foreign language thought to be an Arabic language, and the pilot was refusing to take off until they were escorted off the plane."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; islam
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To: white trash redneck
This is the way to force the Islamic community to clean up their squalid cesspool of a religious community. Once they are outcast without any help from the infidels they will be bound to use camels and find ways for infidels to pump and sell their oil.
21 posted on 08/20/2006 5:29:16 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: aruanan
Does anyone know if the Earth Liberation Front has been officially classified as a terrorist organization? I'm just curious since our local peace-nik group just had a fund raiser for ELF.
22 posted on 08/20/2006 5:32:17 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: montag813
but every terrorist is a Muslim.
I disagree unless you can prove all (any?) members of ETA, IRA, ELF etc etc are muslims.
23 posted on 08/20/2006 5:33:32 AM PDT by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: white trash redneck

"For those unfortunate two men to be victimised because of the colour of their skin is just nonsense."
This guy must have studied under dopey Norm Mineta.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 5:34:49 AM PDT by libbybelle
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To: white trash redneck

The people are smarter than their elected representatives! No surprise in that! The people know that profiling of male muslims MUST BE DONE.
If profiling is not done, the elected officials are responsible when the next attack happens!


25 posted on 08/20/2006 5:39:32 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Beware the Leftist Marxist-Islamist Alliance. They both want us dead.)
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To: Mister Da

New Plan: All moslems, whether arabs or converts, can fly only on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Others may fly then as well, if they want to, but on the other days of the week, no moslems will be allowed to fly.

I guess they can bring their own flight crew, if they want to. The worst that happens then is that they blow each other to smithereens.

Not sure how to ascertain without a doubt, whether they are moslem or not. That could take some doing.

So, this morning I am covered with poison ivy rash and look a lot like Quasimodo, which may explain my state of mind.


26 posted on 08/20/2006 5:39:45 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: white trash redneck

Haven't flown in more than a decade. Probably wouldn't recognize the inside of an airport anymore. I pity anyone who has to fly for their work. I drive my Lincoln, see the country, and enjoy the Flight Free Lifestyle.


27 posted on 08/20/2006 5:42:57 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: Trteamer

Not by the Dept. of State. Perhaps by homeland security?


28 posted on 08/20/2006 5:44:14 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: brothers4thID

The part about being scruffy and long haired pretty much excludes these guys from consideration as terrorists. Anyone worth their salt knows the first thing out of the mouths of the acquaintances of these monsters is how polite and neat they are. Think little nerd monsters.


29 posted on 08/20/2006 5:49:37 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: wita

True. Their are plenty of commie and other terrorists. But they tend to launch more controlled raid type attacks or take hostages. Not just take down random airliners.


30 posted on 08/20/2006 5:54:34 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: white trash redneck
It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'.

How! Dare! They!!??!!!!

More PC training school for them!!!!!!


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31 posted on 08/20/2006 6:07:45 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Terridan
Just like with the illegals issue, we need to be ever vigilant, ever watching.

We all need to be Minutemen, because our government/politicians are going to do what is politically and diplomatically in their best interest, not necessarily what is in our best interest.
32 posted on 08/20/2006 6:12:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: white trash redneck; Egon; Eb Wilson
Exists there a ping list for this sort of activism?

It seems to me that we all began to learn "profiling" from birth. It is a survival trait to be able to recognise your parents and safe friends. It goes on from there. We teach our children to avoid locations, situations and people that look dangerous, and to report them. We chose to be aware of our surroundings and pick our walking routes and shopping venues with safety in mind. Now, the government tells us to go counter to all this natural survival training and completely shut off this basic instinctual behavior.

I think not! Bravo for these passengers! Let's promote this kind of common sense response.

33 posted on 08/20/2006 6:17:48 AM PDT by RhoTheta (Twas brillig, and the toves were not just slithy, they were stinking drunk.)
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To: SusaninOhio
New Plan: All moslems, whether arabs or converts, can fly only on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Others may fly then as well, if they want to, but on the other days of the week, no moslems will be allowed to fly.

Newer Plan: All Muslims from now on use Flying Carpets ONLY!

34 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:11 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: aruanan

Agree; it's not mutiny, it's common sense.

I fly a lot and on 9/12 promised my family that if I ever thought one of my fellow passengers might be a bad guy, I'd get off the plane, or not board.

I've got way more important things to do than play pc.


35 posted on 08/20/2006 6:45:15 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: brothers4thID

Hebrew ;-)


36 posted on 08/20/2006 6:50:40 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: aruanan

Remember the old cartoons of the mad bombers throwing the round black bombs?

Those were Anarchists.


37 posted on 08/20/2006 6:58:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SusaninOhio
Truly sorry about your rash. Recently, I've seen on TV a new treatment for PI. Might want to look it up on the net if you don't have a good treatment. A strong Clorox/water solution will dry it up (careful) - so will a good soaking in the ocean. Good luck with that.

I'm serious about ostracizing muslims. We cannot leave life or death decisions solely to the TSA screeners or to rent-a-cops in public places. PC prevents these people from effectively doing their job.

If planes & trains, stores, restaurants start emptying out when muslims arrive, airlines, businesses & the govt. will have to make accommodation to civilized people for a change.

If you think this is racist of me, understand that every muslim has a blank check from mohammed to lie, cheat, steal, rape, enslave, & kill me. Read the koran - it's in there. So, I consider them to be a very serious & immediate threat to me, my country, & the world. These are not people I would want to keep close company with & would be suspect at every contact.

Beyond that, if there ever was a religion of satan, islam surely must be it. Just the concept that Paradise is a whore house convinces me.
38 posted on 08/20/2006 7:07:11 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: RhoTheta
Exists there a ping list for this sort of activism?

/Yoda mode

39 posted on 08/20/2006 7:16:49 AM PDT by alley cat
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To: Mister Da
If you think this is racist of me, understand that every muslim has a blank check from mohammed to lie, cheat, steal, rape, enslave, & kill me.

I posted the following response to the italicized statement in the It's the Policy, Stupid - Political Islam and US Foreign Policy (Gallup Islam Study) thread yesterday regarding 'peaceful' Islam:

Poster Obie Wan:
Considering that "peaceful" Islam has had very little condemnation for the atrocities of the radicals

Poster TomGuy:
That is the crux of the problem: Is there really a distinction? If so, then the "peaceful" Islamics should take responsibility for policing their religion and exorcise those who taint and bastardize the true Islamic religion.

However, since the "peaceful" Islamics remain relatively silent in regard to their fellow 'radical Islamic' brethren, I go with at quote from Robert Bolt attributed to Sir Thomas More in A Man for All Seasons:

Sir Thomas More: ... The maxim is "Qui tacet consentiret": the maxim of the law is "Silence gives consent". If therefore you wish to construe what my silence betokened, you must construe that I consented, not that I denied.

40 posted on 08/20/2006 7:21:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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