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'Terrible silence' over Mbeki's record on Aids
Guardian ^ | 19 August 2006 | Sarah Boseley in Toronto

Posted on 08/19/2006 4:26:05 PM PDT by shrinkermd

A South African Aids campaigner has called on world leaders to speak out against the government of Thabo Mbeki, which he claims is responsible for the continuing but unnecessary devastation wreaked in his country by Aids.

Eight hundred people die from Aids in South Africa every day, said Mark Heywood, of the Aids Law Project at the University of the Witwatersrand and the Treatment Action Campaign (Tac). "We're treating only 17% of people with Aids. What is happening in South Africa is a human rights violation that needs leadership from outside of South Africa to address the crisis being created by the South African government." But, he said at the International Aids Conference in Toronto on Thursday, there was "a terrible silence" from the world.

"Bill Clinton can't get the words out of his mouth to criticise Thabo Mbeki. Kofi Annan can't criticise Thabo Mbeki ... The long-term consequences for South Africa are enormous This crisis has to be broken somehow. The African Union and the G8 and the EU have to speak out about it.

The British government, who are silent on this question, have to find a way to intervene." South Africa has 200,000 people on antiretroviral drugs for Aids, of whom 130,000 are treated in the public sector. But about 700,000 people with HIV need the drugs and will soon die without them. Mr Heywood said there had been a lack of government will to roll out the treatment programme, after Mr Mbeki said he did not believe HIV caused Aids, and more recently health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang said she had more faith in lemon and garlic to treat Aids than in drugs.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; hiv; mbeki; south
"Mr Mbeki said he did not believe HIV caused Aids, and more recently health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang said she had more faith in lemon and garlic to treat Aids than in drugs
1 posted on 08/19/2006 4:26:07 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
What is happening in South Africa is a human rights violation that needs leadership from outside of South Africa to address the crisis being created by the South African government.

The people of South Africa wanted this government,

now they whine that it is the fault of the rest of the world.

Africa another failed socialist experiment.

2 posted on 08/19/2006 4:42:28 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: TYVets

...it may be genetic....Mbecki most likely believes in voodoo and ghosts....


3 posted on 08/19/2006 5:25:28 PM PDT by Duffboy
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To: TYVets
South Africa, Zimbabwe, etc, etc.... have all become exactly what the Left and the Black Racists in Africa and America demanded it become...

Free of colonial rule.
Free of white administrators..
Free of white farmers..
Free of white entrepreneurs.
Home rule...
Africa for and by the BLACK Africans...

It is culturally and politically insensitive for us to find fault or feel responsible for the toilet that Africa is becoming...
It is the way THEY must want it, since THEY are doing it to themselves..

One can lead a man to books, but can't prevent him from either burning them, eating them or throwing them an each other..

It will all turn for the better, once another 100 million or so Africans die from disease, AIDS, hunger, savagery or war. Then the Chinese or Muslims will move in and REALLY enslave the poor bastards.

Semper Fi

4 posted on 08/19/2006 5:46:57 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Damn shame about Africa.

A hundred years from now historians will excoriate us for ever abandoning 'colonialism'.

L

5 posted on 08/19/2006 5:53:11 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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"Mr Mbeki said he did not believe HIV caused Aids, and more recently health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang said she had more faith in lemon and garlic to treat Aids than in drugs

Go for it, Mobo. What was it said the other day by that twit about how "western governments have no right to tell African governments how to treat AIDS" and not to spread "western" notions like abstinence and monogamy. The AIDS brigades are a pathetic, morbid joke.

6 posted on 08/19/2006 5:57:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"Bill Clinton can't get the words out of his mouth to criticise Thabo Mbeki. Kofi Annan can't criticise Thabo Mbeki ...

How can one criticize South Africa? South Africa is tremendous success after Apartheid.

7 posted on 08/19/2006 5:59:14 PM PDT by BIGZ
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"Mr Mbeki said he did not believe HIV caused Aids, ..."

Uh ... he was right.

8 posted on 08/19/2006 6:39:19 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang said she had more faith in lemon and garlic to treat Aids than in drugs

Don't laugh too hard, lemon peel tea balances the PH of the body to alkaline, and raw garlic chopped into BB sized pieces and swallowed with a swig of water with no chewing is very effective against fungus infections. Add a heaping quantity of Olive leaf extract and in most cases symptomatic AIDS mysteriously disappears within 90 days of this daily regime, if you also change your diet to not force yourself acid that is.

It takes a few years to not test positive to HIV, because like any virus, you build up antibodies to it that last for years. The test for HIV is not for the virus itself, but for the antibodies that the body produced to fight it off. There is NO test for the virus itself because the virus cannot be found in the body within two weeks of the initial infection.

Western AIDS drugs causes more people to die from AIDS than people who do not take it, (CDC's own statistics show that), cost ten of thousands of dollars that the South Africans do not have, and cannot be manufactured locally without breaking international patent laws.

I bet lemon and garlic cures far more people than AIDS drugs, certainly they do not increase the death rate like the western drugs. Systemic fungal infections cause Immune deficiency deceases, what then is AIDS but a immune deficiency decease with HIV thrown in? I suspect the whole AIDS brewha is nothing but a huge money scheme that is killing millions while making Billions.

9 posted on 08/19/2006 11:33:03 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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