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The Kingdom of Thailand isn't about pedophiles (Tourism vanity)

Posted on 08/19/2006 2:18:44 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

The John Mark Karr story, now heavily into the media groupthink cycle - has entered a predictable phase.

Various busibodies and know-it-alls in the media (yes even Fox News) and the meddlesome groups which hover around the media like pilot fish -- are beginning to circle around allegations of pedophilia in the Kingdom of Thailand.

This poster acknowledges a certain unconcerned libertarianism in Thai society, which frankly is REFRESHING. But the fact is, Thais no more accept pedophilia than any other culture.

In fact, snaring foreign pedophiles makes great press. Thai papers regularly run bits on middle-age European types looking surprized and embarrassed as police burst into their room, cameras flashing.

I admire Thais. The Thai embrace of "sanuk", and the importance of a cool temper, makes Thai society remarkably civil and warm. Thais accept others, and they believe very deeply in individual freedoms.

Narrow-minded American media types, would do well to spend more time there, before trotting out tired old canards about "red light districts" and alleged pedophilia. Then perhaps an in-depth expose on the relative amount of personal freedoms in 2006 America, vs 2006 Thailand.

Go to Thailand. Rent a motorcycle and go see the country. You will learn almost immediately, as you ride your motorcycle carefully on the wrong side of the road; past ancient Wats, without a DOT-approved helmet smothering your senses, a newfound sense of what real freedom feels like.

Stop by a beach, buy a Singha beer from the vendor, and consider the meaning of classical lasse faire as you sit watching the waves, sweltering comfortably in the 110 degree heat. :)

There's very little in American experience like it anymore. Not since the old west.

American lectures are not appropriate. America should learn to be more like Thailand, in this poster's opinion.

Fewer lawyers. Fewer laws. And a lot less sanctimony.

Mai pen arai.


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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thailand is a tourist destination for men who want to have sex with children. Not many nations have that kind of industry as a tourism draw.


21 posted on 08/19/2006 4:12:57 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You are wasting your time. You should have seen the threads when Phuket got hit by the tsunami. They were literally celebrating.

One thing you will find is that virtually none of these people have ever been to Thailand. Next they will accuse you of being a pedophile.

22 posted on 08/19/2006 4:17:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Having been to Thailand,I can think of few things that would more unpleasant than spending any time in a Thai prison.

How amoral and/or desperate must a guy be to stalk underage girls or boys in SE Asia?

23 posted on 08/19/2006 4:20:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Thailand...that's a place where sex junkets don't take place. It's not popular with Japanese businessmen seeking taboo desires.

Thailand...that's a place where pedaphiles don't go to fulfill their vile urges.

Libertarians...that's a political philosophy that doesn't seek to erase the age of consent laws.

It all is so clear. I was mistaken all these years from talking to libertarian collegues and travelers to Thailand.
24 posted on 08/19/2006 4:25:59 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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Gosh, oh-golly-gee-whiz, s. Me too! Oh, woe is me!


25 posted on 08/19/2006 4:31:39 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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Thailand's Sex Trade Flourishes POSTED: 5:50 am EDT August 17, 2006

BANGKOK -- It's a photo that has become a staple in the tabloids of Southeast Asia: the foreigner taken in by police after being caught in bed with a local boy or girl.

For many of the region's countries which derive huge sums of money from the tourism trade, it's a vivid illustration of its seamiest side -- child sexual exploitation.

Hey, maybe the "refreshing" "libertarianism" of the child sex-trade in Thailand has changed in the last two days.
26 posted on 08/19/2006 4:36:57 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Well, since we put all those misunderstandings about Thailand and libertarians to rest, let's get to work Butternut:

I propose (with the help of our libertarian friends) to increase spending and power for the War on Drugs. We must also (with the help of our libertarian allies) raise the age of consent to 18 -- or at the very least 17+2. Internet porn must be completely filtered out of public schools, libraries, and all other avenues of influence to children. And they will help us educate the world to the dangers of drug abuse. Prostitution will become illegal again in Nevada and Holland. And finally, child pornography and child sex trade will be stamped out.

It won't solve all the world's problems but it will put a nice sized dent in a few nasty ones. Maybe one day our country will be as great as Thailand. Hell, maybe we can even reintroduce a powerful monarchy like Thailand.


27 posted on 08/19/2006 4:58:55 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Mojave
Thailand's Sex Trade Flourishes POSTED: 5:50 am EDT August 17, 2006

BANGKOK -- It's a photo that has become a staple in the tabloids of Southeast Asia: the foreigner taken in by police after being caught in bed with a local boy or girl.

For many of the region's countries which derive huge sums of money from the tourism trade, it's a vivid illustration of its seamiest side -- child sexual exploitation.

Hey, maybe the "refreshing" "libertarianism" of the child sex-trade in Thailand has changed in the last two days.


No no no--the thread's vanity states that Thailand is no different than any other country in its dislike of pedophilia. Therefore, when we walk out our doors and drive down the streets we should be able to imagine our towns, cities, states, and regions of the US as moral parallel to the streets and canals of Bangkok.

28 posted on 08/19/2006 5:11:10 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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LOLOLOL, s!


29 posted on 08/19/2006 5:20:10 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: USNBandit

You are wasting your time. You should have seen the threads when Phuket got hit by the tsunami. They were literally celebrating.

One thing you will find is that virtually none of these people have ever been to Thailand. Next they will accuse you of being a pedophile.

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ROFL. You're about right.

I think I completely misunderestimated this forum.

In my simplistic view of the world, FR = patriotic freedom loving Americans, many of whom come from a military background.

Probably accurate.

My fundamental mistake was in concluding this meant freedom from strictly enforced helmet laws, freedom from strictly enforced seatbelt laws, freedom from money-grubbing lawyer driven meddlesome nanny state goverment, freedom to live how one chooses, and (horror of horrors) freedom to have fun.

You know, as in "R & R".

Hello?...

Nowhere did I even HINT at any excusing of pedophilia.

I oppose that 100%, as does any reasonable person.

So, my point was, do Thais.

What I find so intriguing about Thailand is they've managed to thrive as a society for so much longer than America has even existed, and have somehow resisted the spiral into ever more regulations and laws - which threatens to digest what used to be our freedoms, from the inside. Like some societal Ebola virus. All for the sickeningly dishonest mantra "if even one life could be saved".

WE ARE LOSING OUR FREEDOMS.

Nobody really seems to give a hoot - as long as the freedoms we lose are the ones their side wants to eliminate.

So it goes. For eight years one side governs, and systematically eliminates one set of freedoms.

The following eight years, the other side governs. Of course we don't get any of the freedoms we lost the previous eight years back. But sure as the sun rises every morning in the east - we lose a new bunch, a little more every day.

This continues, without pause.

We have who, elected, representing our interests in Washington?

"Lawmakers".

Great. A bunch of know-it-alls, paid by us, who spend their days making more rules telling us what we CANNOT DO.

It's stupid.


30 posted on 08/19/2006 5:20:18 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
WE ARE LOSING OUR FREEDOMS

The freedom to prey on kids.

31 posted on 08/19/2006 5:26:27 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

(aaaargh)

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Hello wall?


32 posted on 08/19/2006 5:29:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

http://www.zeropaid.com/busted/


33 posted on 08/19/2006 5:32:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

(don't follow links I don't recognize)

What is it?


34 posted on 08/19/2006 5:32:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Mojave
There was a lot more pedophilia in Belgium than Thailand.

L

35 posted on 08/19/2006 5:37:49 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: USNBandit
You are wasting your time. You should have seen the threads when Phuket got hit by the tsunami. They were literally celebrating.
I'll have to call BS on that one. Link those threads that celebrated the tsunami hitting Phuket! I don't recall them. I was on a few. I posted a few of the threads myself. Hey maybe I missed all of the posts but the 90% that I read were sorrowful. Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention that private donations were in the millions from us.

One thing you will find is that virtually none of these people have ever been to Thailand.
Logical fallacy: I haven't personally been to Syria but I can tell you Assad is a nut. I haven't personally met the Iranian leader but I can tell you he's antisemitic and a bit looney. Should I withhold such judgments because I haven't seen, felt, heard, or tasted the behaviors of Thailand? BTW, I have friends that taught and did missionary work in Bangkok and with the Karen. Did you know some of the Karen have converted to sabbatarian christianity? I did. Also Queen Sirikit has graciously spoke to my university on several occasions about her country's trials and tribulations in drug production and drug abuse. Has she ever spoken to you personally?

Next they will accuse you of being a pedophile.
I mean if the guy's refreshed by certain libertarian views held by Thais...and one of the great hallmarks of libertarianism is abolition of drug laws and age of consent...it's not a stretch, particularly when the first few graphs talk about pedophilia.


Looking forward to seeing the links on FReepers celebrating the destruction of Phuket, and the tragic loss of the royal son.
36 posted on 08/19/2006 5:42:26 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

A wall.


37 posted on 08/19/2006 6:14:15 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Lurker

Unsurprising.

http://www.libertarian.to/

P.O. Box 21, 2910 Essen, Belgium


38 posted on 08/19/2006 6:17:12 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
You have a lot of hostility towards folks who think just a bit differently than you do. I suggest you seek help for it.

Unless of course you like the Federal government dictating things like seat belt use, helmet use, the amount of water your toilet can consume...

L

39 posted on 08/19/2006 6:21:16 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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Auditing with an E-Meter?

No thanks.


40 posted on 08/19/2006 6:22:26 PM PDT by Mojave
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