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JonBenet's Mom Almost Met With Suspect
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/18/D8JIVM9G0.html ^

Posted on 08/19/2006 7:56:40 AM PDT by Grendel9

Authorities asked Patsy Ramsey in late May _ a month before she died of cancer _ whether she would be willing to meet with the man who claims he killed her 6-year-old daughter, the Ramsey family's attorney said Friday. Ramsey said she would meet with John Mark Karr if it would advance the investigation into JonBenet Ramsey's Christmastime 1996 slaying, but the meeting never took place because authorities did not get back to her before she died in June, attorney Lin Wood said.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: jonbenet; ramsey
the written correspondence Karr sent to Patsy Ramsey either in the form of e-mails or letters was never received by her because it was routed to someone else. "He said police or someone else set up an address for the correspondence to be sent to make it look like he was writing to Ramsey. It was turned over to the police instead."

My question is: In light of the Democrat Judge's ruling about NSA wire tapping/surveillance being unConstitutional re private citizens' rights, can't ANY lawyer NOW use such tactics as in this case with the e-mail/letters be used as a defense?

Sounds like a potential but horrific can of worms being opened here.

1 posted on 08/19/2006 7:56:40 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Grendel9
"Do not jump to conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

Ah, c'mon, what the heck is the Internet good for if not speculation?

I have yet to see anything in this case that leads me to believe Karr could actually be the killer. Evidently, the Ramsey's did not know him, so how did he get into the house? How did he get away without leaving footprints in the snow? How did he lure Patsy out of her room without awaking other members of the household? Etc, etc, etc.

I think Patsy must have been delighted when she heard about Karr. She finally had a "patsy" of her own. One that might exonerate her and her family's obvious complicity for all of history.

2 posted on 08/19/2006 8:16:08 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: massadvj

The developer of criminal profiling at Quantico, John Douglas, has given his opinion that the Ramseys were not the killers. I respect Douglas very much. And I go with his observations.


3 posted on 08/19/2006 8:31:51 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: Grendel9
Karr is as much guilty as I am of being the 3rd shooter on the Grassy Knoll.
wait.. forget the last part - and that was NOT a confession. /s

Seriously, the guy is Fruit-Loops and that's that.

4 posted on 08/19/2006 8:32:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: massadvj
The more I read and hear about Karr, the less I think he had anything to do with this and the more I think he is looking for his 15 minutes. This will all go away in a week or two once he has been back in the states and his "story" completely unravels.

Show's over, nothing to see here, move along, move along folks....


5 posted on 08/19/2006 8:33:20 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: massadvj
JonBenet was Pasty's life, she lived vicariously through her. She would have soon cut off her own hands as kill this child.
6 posted on 08/19/2006 8:37:18 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
JonBenet was Pasty's life, she lived vicariously through her. She would have soon cut off her own hands as kill this child.

I doubt Patsy ahd anything to do with the crime. But I also doubt that Patsy did not know who did it. In that sense, she was complicit.

In many respects, Patsy Ramsey is a tragic figure. What would you do if your husband or son did something like this? Would you elect to lose TWO family members, or deal with the situation inside the family and lead the investigators astray? I can't say what I would do, but I am not certain I would have cooperated with the authorities if it meant losing my son or spouse in addition to my daughter.

In fact, I might even write a note to throw the authorities off track....

7 posted on 08/19/2006 8:43:34 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: massadvj
We are in agreement then. If and that is a big IF, it was a family member who did it, I vote for the son. A jealous sibling with his sister getting so much attention from everyone could be enraged enough to do this. Patsy could have written the note to protect him. Imagine finding yourself in that situation, how awful for the parents.

Does anyone know where the son is now? he would be 20 by now, I guess.
8 posted on 08/19/2006 8:58:39 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Grendel9

Karr signed his high school yearbook with the odd phrase, "I Shall Be The Conqueror."

The ransom note left at the scene was signed, "SBTC."

The odds are that it's just a coincidence, but then maybe not.


9 posted on 08/19/2006 9:02:37 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: massadvj
Why not meet with Karr, she 'knew' very well that he was not the killer.

This family is nutso themselves. John Ramsey got into the political arena, exploiting his notoriety for a chance at elected office.

They seemed to be oblivious to the impression they left with people.

10 posted on 08/19/2006 10:16:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Ditter

I agree.

My take on the parents 'looking guilty' is that they suspected some pedophile creep had killed the girl, and had inward guilt about the beauty pageant routine for attracting the killer. (Quite frankly, though it is not good to speak ill of the dead, Mrs. Ramsey tarted up her little girl--the photos of her seem calculated to create pedophiliac feelings even in those without any such real inclination.)


11 posted on 08/19/2006 10:39:58 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
You are correct about one thing, parents always always ALWAYS feel guilty when their child dies. "I could have been more careful" if it is an accident, "I could have found a better doctor" if it is illness. It doesn't matter what the circumstances, the parents feel "if I had only been a better parent, it wouldn't have happened". I know the Ramseys felt responsible that is just the way it works.
12 posted on 08/19/2006 7:29:22 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Grendel9
If Karr sending stuff....and it's be forwarded to the cops, it's simply a three-way transmission. Karr is volunteering the communication....It's not being picked out of the sky. Totally different.

I record some client phone calls. It's like taking notes....the easy way.

Karr is just "pretending" a lot of times. I'm sure he "wanted" the stuff to be "passed on". His Ransom Note is the same thing. He likes to create confusion. He thinks he's clever. Why leave a ransom note for a dead girl? To prove it was an accident if he ever gets caught? He didn't think that one out really good.

He's sick smart...like the Unabomber who was captured only a few months before (April 1996). It almost looks like Karr takes bits and pieces from other crimes and tries to perfect them.

13 posted on 08/20/2006 4:25:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: preacher
That's an old yearbook. I looked for something more timely and his use of the past little ditty.

In the fall of 1996, he attended Bevill State Community College.

SBTC - How about Student, Bevill, Teacher, College. OR Student, Bevill, Teacher, Conqueror.

In other words, that little ditty still sits in his mind ....but now it has two meanings for him. (I have a feeling that his brother can tell us more about this Shall Be the Conqueror). Maybe he always lost at "King of the Hill"....even to girls??

14 posted on 08/20/2006 4:32:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Grendel9
If he sent a letter to her, would his dna be on the stamp or envelop when he licked it? The present dna would be just to confirm they had Mr. Right. Connect him w/o contamination.
15 posted on 08/20/2006 10:36:44 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Ditter

Student at Purdue.


16 posted on 08/20/2006 10:38:19 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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