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MODERN MANNERS (Offering a Woman a Seat Is 'Creepy,' According to GQ)
New York Post ^ | August 18, 2006 | Liz Smith

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway

'WOMEN ARE equals now. They can fend for themselves. To offer a perfectly healthy woman a seat simply because she is a woman, however well-intentioned, is creepy. At best, she'll think you're from another country; at worst she'll feel old, or overweight enough to be perceived as pregnant."

And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ (with Clive Owen on the cover). Glenn O'Brien and other GQ scribes weigh in on e-mails, cellphones, gym etiquette, dressing for travel, how to handle chatty seatmates, sleeping with your friend's ex, online dating, wedding gifts and how to treat gay people: "Gay people don't want to freshen up the world, they just want to be a part of it." (So don't ask for makeovers and fashion tips.)

Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

I live in California, and I always let women exit the elevator first. I've never lived in Texas, and I don't remember specifically being taught that, but somehow I do it.


61 posted on 08/18/2006 2:08:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Juana la Loca

"You should be courteous and chivalrous to all women. "

In my opionion, everyone should be courteous and chivalrous to all people, whatever their gender. It sure would be a nicer world out there.


62 posted on 08/18/2006 2:08:45 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Everyone here still has guns.

An armed society is a polite one.


63 posted on 08/18/2006 2:09:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The Black Knight

shoulda left that one to fend for herself....
she sounds like she needs lots' more than a man,
probably a few counselors, divorce lawyers,
doctors, police, nurses, etc


64 posted on 08/18/2006 2:09:27 PM PDT by Getready (.)
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To: nickcarraway

A young gentleman offered me a seat on the subway recently. I'm 51 and I only weigh 100 pounds so there's no way I looked pregnant, but I'm not elderly, either. I thanked him graciously. I figure his mama must've raised him right!


65 posted on 08/18/2006 2:09:34 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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To: nickcarraway
And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ

GQ. The operations manual for the modern metrothexual.

:-p

66 posted on 08/18/2006 2:10:04 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity'...nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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To: massgopguy
Back around 2000, I offered a hand up to a woman who had fallen on the ice in Kendall Sq. in Cambridge MA. Guess what she said?

"I actually did vote for the 87 billion dollars...before I voted against it."

67 posted on 08/18/2006 2:10:57 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The only way to bring a permanent peace is to eliminate the permanent threat. - FReeper Optimist)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

you forgot...."cell phones excepted..."


68 posted on 08/18/2006 2:11:14 PM PDT by Getready (.)
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To: JamesP81; mockingbyrd
Well, on second thought, that's not really true. I usually do help out ladies or give up my seat. It's just that more than a few of them will give me a look that will kill and everytime I do it, I'm always thinking 'am I getting out of this unscathed?'

Oh well. Being a gentlemen is still good enough to put up with most of the BS.
69 posted on 08/18/2006 2:11:21 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Peach

BUMP!


70 posted on 08/18/2006 2:11:51 PM PDT by upchuck (WHO decided immigration laws should not be enforced? That is NOT a rhetorical question.)
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To: sittnick

The reason the males at GQ feel "creepy" is because they are not interested in women...

GQ has just become "homosexual based porn" which is makes it in the same category as nuclear waste and must be handled accordingly.


71 posted on 08/18/2006 2:12:08 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BenLurkin

No,actually,it is in the "hood"where offering a woman your seat would NOT seem creepy.
Its in the ultra liberal rich white enclaves where such"sexist"behavoir would be looked askance at.
Black and Latino women would feel honored and appreciated at such a gesture.
At least thats this"OG's" experience!


72 posted on 08/18/2006 2:12:40 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: gridlock
As long as you're not offering her a seat on your lap, I think you're in the clear...

Well, GQ may think that--but then remember who their primary readers are. But my experience is that I get a big smile and a thank you.

73 posted on 08/18/2006 2:13:18 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: BenLurkin

Absolutely right. I love it when a gentleman opens a door for me, and my daughters are learning to appreciate it as well.


74 posted on 08/18/2006 2:13:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: pax_et_bonum
Most Texas men are gentlemen and we Texas ladies appreciate it.

Most of us got smacked by our Texas Moms and Grandmoms and remember it well.

It ain't gallantry, it's fear.

75 posted on 08/18/2006 2:14:05 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: FJ290
Me too.

Write my name down on that list too, if you would.
76 posted on 08/18/2006 2:14:22 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: MineralMan
In my opionion, everyone should be courteous and chivalrous to all people, whatever their gender. It sure would be a nicer world out there.

In a generic sense. But I'm thinking it really would be creepy if you offered me your seat on a croweded bus, if you know what I mean. Hint, ModelBreaker's a boy.

77 posted on 08/18/2006 2:15:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SamAdams76

"Also, when I saw him the other day, I asked him if my T-shirt made me look too fat."

No but those drapes do.

Hope thats not rude.

:)


78 posted on 08/18/2006 2:15:32 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Getready

College student, so probably no need for divorce lawyers. Although, with her attituge, she may not ever get married anyway.


79 posted on 08/18/2006 2:16:20 PM PDT by The Black Knight (The Tengu Demon with a heart)
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To: pax_et_bonum

We aim to please...


80 posted on 08/18/2006 2:16:39 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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