Posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
'WOMEN ARE equals now. They can fend for themselves. To offer a perfectly healthy woman a seat simply because she is a woman, however well-intentioned, is creepy. At best, she'll think you're from another country; at worst she'll feel old, or overweight enough to be perceived as pregnant."
And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ (with Clive Owen on the cover). Glenn O'Brien and other GQ scribes weigh in on e-mails, cellphones, gym etiquette, dressing for travel, how to handle chatty seatmates, sleeping with your friend's ex, online dating, wedding gifts and how to treat gay people: "Gay people don't want to freshen up the world, they just want to be a part of it." (So don't ask for makeovers and fashion tips.)
Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
I guess I'm a creep.
(and, of course, I'm from Indiana)
When my boys were little I taught them to open doors for people....everyone loved it. They still do it to this day.
susie
When I was a student at UNC Charlotte three years ago, and I held the door to a girl who was walking up. She mouthed off that "She didn't need a MAN holding the door for her". I just smiled and waited until she walked in.
I was in a hurry, so I actually ended up walking even with her as we approached a stairway. I just couldn't help stopping and saying "Ladies First".
I'll never forget the daggers that came out of her eyes. Just one of many episodes that caused me to date Asians.
"The problem, of course, is that you can't tell what the women you don't know think about these things."
You should be courteous and chivalrous to all women. If a woman acts like a raging, screeching harpy because of your good manners, then you should know that's not the woman for you.
I recently offered to give up my seat for the head of HR in the company where I work. She turned to me and said I shouldn't do that, that we are all equal in the workplace. I politely told her my momma would have whupped me if she'd seen me take a seat like that. She told me I was a nut (in a joking tone of voice) and she took the seat. Then she whispered to me she loves it when a gentleman treats her like a lady.
Once offered my seat on BART (SF Bay Area Rapid Transit -- commuter train) to a woman in Oakland, CA.
The look she gave me would've withered concrete.
Then again, we're talking Oakland.
Personally, I think if you want to know the opinions of gay men, GQ would be a pretty good source.
Well actually what I do if I am in a restuarant near a chair and see a woman about to sit down, is I ask her who she voted for last election. If she says Bush, I politely pull the chair out for her, let her sit, get the waiter for her, ask her if she needs anothing else, then tell her it is not often I get to serve such a beautiful woman, then I kiss her hand.
If she says Gore or Kerry, I pull the chair out then out again so she misses, then tell her sorry, I couldn`t tell if she was sitting or standing because of her fat.
The best was last week when I ran into this old lady with a walker who was wearing a Kerry button. I swear, when she fell on her arse, it made the sound of a squeak toy. Her family started screaming at me, so I pulled the "Sorry, I no speak a the English" routine.
only a metrosexual or a homosexual would not open the door or offer his seat for a lady.
Even a neadertall would do that much. Then again GQ is not much of a MAN's (in the heterosexual sense of the word) magazine.
Yep I do that here in California's Capitol (also letting them step off the elevator first). It's funny when half of the liberal Democrat women smile and half give me a dirty look or shake their heads. A few months ago I thought one butch babe was going to slug me.
Back around 2000, I offered a hand up to a woman who had fallen on the ice in Kendall Sq. in Cambridge MA. Guess what she said?
I don't think it was rude, Sam, but...
Metrosexualism is creepy. So is GQ.
There is nothing worse than trying to be gentleman to women in a liberal hellhole city like Seattle.
Half the time I open a door for them, they look at me with this digusted look as if I'm opressing them.
If I ever heard a woman lash out at a man for being polite, I would probably have to say something to her. I don't think there are that many who do that stuff, but they sure do ruin it for the rest of us.
susie
Doesn`t GQ stand for Gay Queer?
If a guy does everthing 180 degrees against what this magasine says he'll do just fine. Who are the morons that makeup the staff of this magasine and what says they are qualified to make these inanane statements.
Come on guy's be yourself.
"Upon exiting an elevator, allow the woman/women to exit first, "
The elevator icebreaker I use is "OK everyone, please observe proper elevator behavior, eyes forward and no talking".
I've yet not to get a snicker.
That's not jsut Texas, that's just manners. I've lived in CA most of my life and I do that (see above)
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