Posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
'WOMEN ARE equals now. They can fend for themselves. To offer a perfectly healthy woman a seat simply because she is a woman, however well-intentioned, is creepy. At best, she'll think you're from another country; at worst she'll feel old, or overweight enough to be perceived as pregnant."
And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ (with Clive Owen on the cover). Glenn O'Brien and other GQ scribes weigh in on e-mails, cellphones, gym etiquette, dressing for travel, how to handle chatty seatmates, sleeping with your friend's ex, online dating, wedding gifts and how to treat gay people: "Gay people don't want to freshen up the world, they just want to be a part of it." (So don't ask for makeovers and fashion tips.)
Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
But then again she loves it because She Is a Lady.
And GQ is no more a "Man's" Magazine than SNL is funny, either.
They just dont make it like they used to.
Chris Farley, RIP
............Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"................
Yep,
It's a wonderful experience to hold the door open for about five or so women, some of whom say "thank you,"
and then, be totally ignored by the same five or so women in the line ahead of you buying coffee, tickets, depositing checks, or whatever!
It was the station door at Pentagon City. (and she could have been tipped off by the cow manure on my pant cuff)
Bunk. If I had a guy do this, I'd love it. I might not take him up on it but if I was tired enough or my shoes weren't that comfy (unlike most men's shoes), I'd sure be happy.
As an aside, when I was pregnant 30 years ago, I rode the bus/train to work. The men would be seated and they would pretend they didn't see me. I could always tell which ones too because I'd see them glance up and quickly look away like I was blind or something. 9 times out of 10 women got up for me. They KNEW how uncomfortable it could be. Some men are just selfish creeps; oops, I mean, a lot of men.
I agree. Strength and feminity are not mutually exclusive. I've been on my own for quite a while now and am very independent, but I appreciate and respect a man who opens doors for me, helps me carry things to my car and does all of those other wonderful gentlemanly things.
Texan men excell at recongizing and respecting a woman's strength but also understanding that we admire chivalry and good manners.
Great point, I try to practice that.
I can't tell you how many time's I've seen men give up their seats on the DC metro for a pretty young woman...she always seems to appreciate it too.
What a load of crap.
I can't think of the last time I used public transportation where a man could get up and offer me his seat.
See my last sentence on Post #24. I think you'll agree.
GQ = "Gays & Queers"
Unless the woman's considerably older than me, pregnant or otherwise handicapped, she can stand.
When I was little, say adolescent, my Mom used to make us hold doors for her. We'd be going to the department store, for example, and she would just stop dead in her tracks in front of the door. At first we were like, "what?" but then we'd figure out that she expected us to open it for her.
GQ is creepy.
People should be chivalrous to each other, not just men to women! I am a woman, and I hold the door for whoever is coming behind me coming in! Man, woman, child, dog.
I don't ride public transportation often, but I would only offer a seat to someone who was elderly or injured or looked like they needed it, or maybe someone wearing unsensible shoes :~)
It's not necessary to offer your seat to someone in hiking boots or tennis shoes, should be the rule.
A lot you know... it's "eyes on the numbers and no talking on the elevator."
Nonsense! And people wonder why Europeans say Americans have no manners. Must be because people like these, don't.
I'm talking manners in general, not chivalrous behavior. I agree that true chivalrous offerings are somewhat a priori. I'll give half the credit for chivalrous behavior to an innate sense to protect, and the other half to just wanting to get catch the girl.
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