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MODERN MANNERS (Offering a Woman a Seat Is 'Creepy,' According to GQ)
New York Post ^ | August 18, 2006 | Liz Smith

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway

'WOMEN ARE equals now. They can fend for themselves. To offer a perfectly healthy woman a seat simply because she is a woman, however well-intentioned, is creepy. At best, she'll think you're from another country; at worst she'll feel old, or overweight enough to be perceived as pregnant."

And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ (with Clive Owen on the cover). Glenn O'Brien and other GQ scribes weigh in on e-mails, cellphones, gym etiquette, dressing for travel, how to handle chatty seatmates, sleeping with your friend's ex, online dating, wedding gifts and how to treat gay people: "Gay people don't want to freshen up the world, they just want to be a part of it." (So don't ask for makeovers and fashion tips.)

Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: Peach
Guess, I'm just lucky , my Lady loves it !

But then again she loves it because She Is a Lady.

101 posted on 08/18/2006 2:26:49 PM PDT by Kakaze
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To: Sam's Army

And GQ is no more a "Man's" Magazine than SNL is funny, either.

They just dont make it like they used to.

Chris Farley, RIP


102 posted on 08/18/2006 2:26:49 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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To: nickcarraway

............Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"................

Yep,

It's a wonderful experience to hold the door open for about five or so women, some of whom say "thank you,"
and then, be totally ignored by the same five or so women in the line ahead of you buying coffee, tickets, depositing checks, or whatever!


103 posted on 08/18/2006 2:27:13 PM PDT by aShepard (Maybe the UN should donate UNICEF proceeds to the Gates Foundation, and fold!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
The Thai folk I've been around have and appreciate excellent manners.

We have many exchange students at my alma mater from Thailand. I agree; they're a good bunch.
104 posted on 08/18/2006 2:27:30 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: steve-b

It was the station door at Pentagon City. (and she could have been tipped off by the cow manure on my pant cuff)


105 posted on 08/18/2006 2:27:45 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: nickcarraway

Bunk. If I had a guy do this, I'd love it. I might not take him up on it but if I was tired enough or my shoes weren't that comfy (unlike most men's shoes), I'd sure be happy.

As an aside, when I was pregnant 30 years ago, I rode the bus/train to work. The men would be seated and they would pretend they didn't see me. I could always tell which ones too because I'd see them glance up and quickly look away like I was blind or something. 9 times out of 10 women got up for me. They KNEW how uncomfortable it could be. Some men are just selfish creeps; oops, I mean, a lot of men.


106 posted on 08/18/2006 2:29:39 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: pax_et_bonum; humblegunner; Eaker; TheMom; Xenalyte
Most Texas men are gentlemen and we Texas ladies appreciate it.

I agree. Strength and feminity are not mutually exclusive. I've been on my own for quite a while now and am very independent, but I appreciate and respect a man who opens doors for me, helps me carry things to my car and does all of those other wonderful gentlemanly things.

Texan men excell at recongizing and respecting a woman's strength but also understanding that we admire chivalry and good manners.

107 posted on 08/18/2006 2:30:55 PM PDT by Allegra (RIP FReeper FLYER. You will be greatly missed.)
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To: MineralMan
In my opionion, everyone should be courteous and chivalrous to all people, whatever their gender. It sure would be a nicer world out there.

Great point, I try to practice that.

108 posted on 08/18/2006 2:32:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: nickcarraway

I can't tell you how many time's I've seen men give up their seats on the DC metro for a pretty young woman...she always seems to appreciate it too.

What a load of crap.


109 posted on 08/18/2006 2:33:06 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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To: The Black Knight
I'll never forget the daggers that came out of her eyes.
Just one of many episodes that caused me to date Asians.


Four of my college buddies ended up with wives from Japan, a fifth one married
a Phillipina.

After one too many experiences like yours.
110 posted on 08/18/2006 2:34:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nickcarraway

I can't think of the last time I used public transportation where a man could get up and offer me his seat.


111 posted on 08/18/2006 2:35:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: JamesP81; Rb ver. 2.0

See my last sentence on Post #24. I think you'll agree.


112 posted on 08/18/2006 2:35:32 PM PDT by The Black Knight (The Tengu Demon with a heart)
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To: nickcarraway

GQ = "Gays & Queers"


113 posted on 08/18/2006 2:35:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: nickcarraway

Unless the woman's considerably older than me, pregnant or otherwise handicapped, she can stand.


114 posted on 08/18/2006 2:37:07 PM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: brytlea
When my boys were little I taught them to open doors for people....

When I was little, say adolescent, my Mom used to make us hold doors for her. We'd be going to the department store, for example, and she would just stop dead in her tracks in front of the door. At first we were like, "what?" but then we'd figure out that she expected us to open it for her.

115 posted on 08/18/2006 2:38:14 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeĀ®)
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To: FReepaholic

GQ is creepy.


116 posted on 08/18/2006 2:38:28 PM PDT by Amadeo
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To: nickcarraway

People should be chivalrous to each other, not just men to women! I am a woman, and I hold the door for whoever is coming behind me coming in! Man, woman, child, dog.

I don't ride public transportation often, but I would only offer a seat to someone who was elderly or injured or looked like they needed it, or maybe someone wearing unsensible shoes :~)

It's not necessary to offer your seat to someone in hiking boots or tennis shoes, should be the rule.


117 posted on 08/18/2006 2:39:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
eyes forward

A lot you know... it's "eyes on the numbers and no talking on the elevator."

118 posted on 08/18/2006 2:41:09 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeĀ®)
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To: nickcarraway

Nonsense! And people wonder why Europeans say Americans have no manners. Must be because people like these, don't.


119 posted on 08/18/2006 2:42:50 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: JamesP81
Actually, I kind of disagree.

I'm talking manners in general, not chivalrous behavior. I agree that true chivalrous offerings are somewhat a priori. I'll give half the credit for chivalrous behavior to an innate sense to protect, and the other half to just wanting to get catch the girl.

120 posted on 08/18/2006 2:43:42 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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