Posted on 08/18/2006 1:11:45 PM PDT by LS
How many Americans have been killed in Iraq? The media is quick to provide a number, currently at just over 2,500, and, for what its worth, some 500 of those have been non-combat fatalities (i.e., accidents). Left-wing web sites, such as the Iraq Body Count, (www.iraqbodycount.net), claim absurd numbers of up to 44,000 civilians killed in Iraq.
One number is never reported. No one even raises it in a question: how many of the enemy have been killed since the Iraq conflict began? One might find the complete absence of this number in any discussion of the war a tad curious, since, when one side runs out of fighters, it loses. Yet the mainstream media has been reluctant to even broach this issue, let alone try to answer it. Why? An obvious answer is that if Americans knew what havoc our excellent military is wreaking on these terrorists, support for the war would be substantially higher than it already is. The left-oriented media has staged an obvious morale war on Americans, and to some degree it has succeeded; and it has been made worse by the refusal of the Bush Administration (thanks to the Vietnam experience) to tout any enemy casualties as indicators of progress, when in fact they are, in most cases, the very best indicators.
My early estimates, based on back-of-the-envelope additions extracted from combat accounts since the war began, put the number of terrorists/insurgents killed at 20,000 since 2003. I was lowway low.
It takes some digging, but slowly the evidence is leaking out. (Special thanks to the anonymous S for some numbers). The sources are USA Today, July 26, 2006, and the New York Times of June 7. Both sources cite the statistic of 3,149 civilians killed in June 2006. This is consistent with UN reports of 100 civilians per day killed in Iraq in June. Yet the Iraq Coalition Casualty Count put the number of Iraqi Security Forces and Civilian Deaths in June at 870. If there were 3,149 civilians killed yet only 870 of them were genuinely civilians and security forces, what were the other 2,879 bodies? Terrorists and insurgents perhaps? Seems likely.
One of the difficulties that the UN and other objective observers have had is distinguishing civilians from terrorists. If the Iraq Coalition Casualty Count is anywhere near accurate, however, and some 2,800 non-civilian bodies were in Iraq morgues in June, then in fact some 93 terrorists/insurgents per day were being removed from the battlefield, or, since March 2003, it means well over 100,000 non-civilians have been killed by coalition forces since the beginning of combatperhaps upwards of 120,000. To be safe, using UN/New York Times numbers, we arrive at 75 terrorists/insurgents per day, or 36,000 dead enemy fighters since combat began.
Americans have experienced a killed in action/wounded ratio of 13% (although an astonishing 55% of American wounded return to duty in 72 hours!) Does anyone think the terrorists are experiencing that level of medical success with their wounded? Even at eight wounded for every terrorist killed, at the low end of 36,000 enemy dead, some 288,000 have been wounded since the beginning of combat, to a high-end estimate of 960,000 wounded. This doesnt even factor in the desertersall the jihadists who, upon seeing their vile brethren vaporized, quietly dropped the IED and went home, never to fight again. (One indicator that this is an impressive number is the surging size of the Iraqi national army and police forces, made up to some degree of former dead-enders who now hope to get on the winning side). Nor does it include the more than 5,000-plus known al-Qaeda dead in Afghanistan under Operation Enduring Freedom.
How realistic are these estimates? We glean some insight from reports of specific battles and campaigns that have already been published by the soldiers who were there. For example, Bing Wests book on Fallujah, No True Glory (Random House, 2005), offers insight on the incredible casualties inflicted on the jihadists in that 2004 battle, where one American sniper alone had 100 kills. Iraqi/Baghdad morgue totals, less actual identified civilian deaths, suggest more than 100,000 enemy dead in the last six months, a number consistent with individual battle reports over this time. This was further confirmed by Newsweeks report last year that the mullahs were running out of males to use as suicide bombers, and they had resorted to using women. Further, the statistics on IEDs, presented earlier in FrontPageMagazine.com, indicate that the terrorists are having to launch more and more attacks with fewer and fewer results.
In Americas Victories: Why the U.S. Wins Wars, I argued that Iraq was a giant Roach Motel, in which the terrorists check in, and only leave via the morgue. The real Iraq body count suggest I understated my case by several orders of magnitude. Let me reiterate that no one is looking at the enemy wounded, many of whom will never again fight, or deserters/quitters. As the Japanese found out with their kamikaze pilots, there is a finite number of warriors willing to commit suicide. There is alsoeven for the most fanatical of bushido-ist Japanese and Islamic jihadistsa critical mass in which fighters and would-be suicide bombers say no mas and quietly abandon the front.
The Roach Motel strategy, as bloody as it is, works as well for us in Iraq as it worked for Lord Chelmsford when he sent his army into Zululand in 1879 to draw out the Zulus and destroy them.
Zarqawis last memos testify to the effectiveness of this strategy, as does his corpse.
PINg for later reading
Where do you find the time to write all those books?
It doesn't matter if the suicide bombers are from the Sunni or Shi'ite sects--- secticide using the "Roach Motel" seems to be working against these cockroaches.
Am I summarizing correcly?
36,000 enemy combatants killed.
300,000 - 960,000 wounded.
Trouble was, it wasn't just the LTs...
Yep. I think 600,000 total dead/wounded/deserted is a pretty firm number.
BINGO!
GREAT POINT!!!!!!
Gotta do something. I don't work for a living. I'm a professor, remember?
I find it hard to believe that there are anything like a half-million active combatants, so I'm quite suspicious of the specific numbers you derived (no personal disrespect intended). I do however, think you have fairly clearly shown that the numbers being bounced around have no context and are otherwise also quite questionable, and thus the exercise was still quite worthwhile.
"There is alsoeven for the most fanatical of bushido-ist Japanese and Islamic jihadistsa critical mass in which fighters and would-be suicide bombers say no mas and quietly abandon the front."
Overall, I thought it was a good article, until the end. I find it unfair to compare islamofascism and bushido. Two totally different things. Bushido puts the warriors in front of their society. Insurgents hide behind their society (politically as well as physically).
2) I've run the "context" by the Marines and several other sources. They seem to think I'm right on. A single U.S. sniper at Fallujah is credited (officially) with 100 kills. One. I think the numbers are pretty close, if not low.
I've never seen it.
In terms of theory, perhaps---and we disagree over this, as you (I think) have a much higher regard for bushido than I or Victor Hanson do. But in reality, the effect is to sacrifice fighters in suicide missions.
'Taint enough! (Just kidding, great article.)
"How many military casualties are America's Iraqi allies suffering?"
That answer, along with American casualties month by month, is found here:
http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number killed testing that VTOL Osprey POS during the clinton years was significant by itself. It seemed like one (filled with Marines) would crash at least once a month.
The leftists use this info as ammo for why we are bad. Helen Thomas refers to them as the grateful dead and Chris Matthews said the other night that with 50,000 dead the Iraqis will never throw flowers. It just never occurs to them that living in neighborhoods infested with bulies is no fun, and people are glad to be rid of them. If it did, they would fight crime in our cities.
Ah yes...now I remember... LOL...
When I was at Camp Lejeune last month, the pilots/flight commander in charge of the Ospreys all said, repeatedly, that the "Flight Manual For EVERY New Plane is Written in Blood."
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