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The crime scene: What is known [JonBenet Ramsey]
cnn.com ^ | Friday, August 18, 2006; Posted: 2:01 p.m. EDT (18:01 GMT)

Posted on 08/18/2006 11:10:04 AM PDT by delacoert

(CNN) -- JonBenet Ramsey's body was discovered on December 26, 1996, in a storage room in the basement of her family's home in Boulder, Colorado.

A three-page hand-written ransom note demanding $118,000 was found on a back staircase leading down from the home's bedroom areas, according to the late Patsy Ramsey.

JonBenet's autopsy report, released by the Boulder County coroner in August 1997, is the main source of what is publicly known about the crime scene. The report included the following details:

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: ElkGroveDan
I downloaded the photo and fixed the color and emailed it back to them.

Saw the picture on the tube today. Looks to me like that teddy bear might be important.

21 posted on 08/18/2006 11:53:13 AM PDT by delacoert
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To: Solamente

Do you know the source of this?

http://www.acandyrose.com/patsychart-rn2full2.gif

Seems very damning for Patsy if real.


22 posted on 08/18/2006 11:55:44 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Solamente
IMHO, these ultra-weirdo-creepy Ramsays rented the kid out in some semblance of a "Eyes Wide Shut" cult.

Think about it. Ramsay was in the computer graphics business. First, for those willing to pay, the pics. Then, later on, for the real money...

Note, too, that the newly-confessed killer was arrested is an area notorius for that mentality. And they both have connections Georgia.

ob.sit: My opinions only

23 posted on 08/18/2006 12:00:55 PM PDT by Company Man
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To: delacoert

Wonder what information was excluded from the media as the local paper indicated today? (rhetorical)


24 posted on 08/18/2006 12:02:15 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Kenny500c
Seems very damning for Patsy if real.

You may be right, but I really find it hard to tell from web resources that scatter from supporting one side to the other.

See, for instance, JonBenet Ramsey Case Encyclopedia.

25 posted on 08/18/2006 12:02:30 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Joe Boucher
More problems then GOD knows and still we obsess with this? I just don't understand.

It's a mystery. Everybody thinks that they're Sherlock Holmes and playing armchair detective is a time-honored pastime. I think that it's as simple as that.

26 posted on 08/18/2006 12:04:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Company Man

Damn! I'm so worried about not being sued, that I'm losing prepositions! Sorry guys!


27 posted on 08/18/2006 12:05:08 PM PDT by Company Man
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To: Suzy Quzy

They had tickets to go to their place up in Michigan - going skiing, I think. I didn't realize it until I googled this Michigan connection that John Ramsey tried to run for Congress up in Charlevoix before this all happened (1994?).


28 posted on 08/18/2006 12:08:12 PM PDT by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: delacoert
that the newly-confessed killer was arrested is an area notorius for that mentality

Huh? Georgia is known for having rent-your-kid-out to a rapist as a common theme?

Seems far fetched to me, given the wealth of the family. What rould the motivation be? Satanism?

29 posted on 08/18/2006 12:09:34 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: apackof2

What do you think I'm talking about?


30 posted on 08/18/2006 12:11:41 PM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: sandbar; Joe Boucher
If this were YOUR daughter, none of those others issues would be more important. You are callous and should be ashamed.

False argument. JonBenet was not Joe Boucher's daughter (it's safe to assume he is not John Ramsey), and Joe's point of view is a legitimate one. This world of ours is filled with people who murder other people, from the very young to the very old. Few murders ever receive even passing interest.

It is not callous whatsoever to observe that there are issues of far greater important in this world than a 10-year-old murder case. This isn't to say that people's interest in the Ramsey case is misplaced. It's one heck of a mystery, and most of us love a good mystery.

31 posted on 08/18/2006 12:11:57 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Red Badger
Another story that I keep seeing in the media, even though solved, is that of Rev. Jim Jones. Of course, a number of questions remain unanswered, including what happened to much of the money and if Dan White's shooting spree was somehow linked to the People's Temple.
32 posted on 08/18/2006 12:12:03 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: PC99

I wonder if what he is saying to the media is different that what he wrote in the emails? It could be an attempt to "look" crazier than he is? DNA will tell. The teddy bear thing is most interesting though.


33 posted on 08/18/2006 12:13:50 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

She was buried in Georgia, so they got down there pretty quickly. I didn't think it was that day, but it could have been. I do know that they wanted to leave less than an hour after finding her.


34 posted on 08/18/2006 12:14:08 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: PC99
Not what I would expect from a diabolical kidnapper/child killer/rapist.

Your point is well taken. I would only add that, technically, JonBenet was not kidnapped since, as far as we know, she was not removed from her own home.

35 posted on 08/18/2006 12:14:20 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Company Man

I'm not even that far ahead. The parents put a kid out of diapers into nylons and makeup, and display their handywork in "cute" "beauty" "pageants." As sick as it gets...


36 posted on 08/18/2006 12:16:34 PM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: delacoert

Weren't pictures of her body given or sold to a tabloid that published them?


37 posted on 08/18/2006 12:16:37 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Solamente
Have you ever read the novel The Godfather? Don Corleone's consigliere, Tom Hagen, makes a trip out to Hollywood to meet with the big movie producer. As he's a bit early for his meeting, Hagen witnesses the departure of a perfectly beautiful little girl with smudged lipstick and dissheveled appearance in the company of her mother who shoots Hagen a proud, defiant look.

Every time I see those clips of JonBenet performing in very adult costumes my flashes to that scene in Puzo's novel.

38 posted on 08/18/2006 12:19:21 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: GBA; Joe Boucher
think the fascination with this case as opposed to the others you cite has to do with humans' sense of justice or, in this case, justice denied.

The fascination with this case is easy to explain:

1. It is a case the media chose to turn the white hot light of its interest on.

2. The media did so because the family is wealthy, the mom was a former beauty queen, and the victim was a gorgeous 6-year-old girl. Better yet, there were plenty of stills and video of the girl the media could salaciously run over and over and over and over again, the better to boost ratings and ad sales (and, let's be honest; to feed plenty of people's sexual fantasies).

3. The case is one heck of a mystery. A real-life TV murder movie. Most of us love a good mystery.


39 posted on 08/18/2006 12:22:25 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: delacoert

>>>I downloaded the photo and fixed the color and emailed it back to them.
Saw the picture on the tube today. Looks to me like that teddy bear might be important.>>>

The HUGE importance is that apparently JMK emailed or somehow a photo got to Michael Tracey (the professor) of JMK as a child with that teddy bear that was very precious to him.


40 posted on 08/18/2006 12:25:05 PM PDT by sandbar
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