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Nuclear war starting in 10 days?
Pravda.Ru ^ | 8/11/2006 | Source: Moskovskii Komsomolets

Posted on 08/17/2006 9:36:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000

Nuclear war starting in 10 days?

Such was the conclusion reached in the U.S. Russian generals and political scientists disagree only about its exact starting date.

Our world is on the brink of another world war. It will originate August 22nd in the Middle East. The prediction was presented not by Vagna or Nostradamus but by an American political scientist Bernard Lewis in the acclaimed publication of Wall Street Journal. He is a man with close ties to the Bush administration as well as to the non-conservatives pushing for the radical solution of the “Iranian Threat.”

Lewis believes it will be precisely Teheran who will unleash the ultimate conflict by attacking Israel. Why August 22nd? Perhaps simply because Washington has set a deadline for the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and has demanded a complete wrap up of the nuclear program by that day. It is obvious that Teheran has no intention to comply. Curiously, this year the night of August 22nd happens to be night Muslims will celebrate the journey of their prophet Mohammed to Jerusalem and his ascension into heaven. According to Lewis the followers of Mohammed have a perfect opportunity to enrich their celebration by throwing an attack on Israel. An immediate retaliation will follow.

“Such a scenario does not seem too unrealistic to me,” comments Sergey Markov, a Russian political scientist, “These days anything is possible in the Middle East. People living there are crazy and they constantly keep playing with fire. Their situation has gone out of control and is ready to explode any minute. In fact, the new world war is already going in that place.”

The First Act

As the Israeli invasion of Lebanon continues it is becoming clearer that Tel-Aviv actually aims at much more than the elimination of Hezbollah. Israel could have long since used its omnipresent scouts to put an end to the resistance’s activity. Neither does the complete destruction of all Hezbollah’s rocket-launching sites present a problem for the Israeli army with its tremendous equipment and might.

So why the endless bombing of Lebanese cities and villages? And why the overwhelming U.S. support? All this is happening precisely during the time when Americans seem unable to force Iran to comply with their demands. Lebanese occupation under the excuse of defending against Hezbollah is itself an excuse for solving the Iranian problem.

The Second Act

Israel has already achieved the minimum solution by getting rid of “Hezbollah” across the border. What more do they need? UN has already offered to fill the occupied area with troops and peace-keepers but Tel-Aviv has still not given its consent. The U.S. is not in hurry to give the green light either. In all actuality it looks like the two countries are intentionally waiting until Iran gets involved in the conflict. The expecting parties might anticipate the attack in the face of fired Iranian rockets, which Tel-Aviv will intercept as they had often done previously with the rockets from Iraq. This time, however, Washington and Tel-Aviv will have acquired an official right to retaliate against Iran.

The Third Act

Israel will attack Iranian nuclear sites. The U.S. will provide its support through the Navy in the Persian Gulf and perhaps through the Air Force. Iran will not delay with its own full-scale attack against the Israeli sites and the U.S. ships.

At this point no one can guarantee that the rest of the Arab World is going to remain watching as an innocent and uninvolved bystander.

The Fourth Act

Very soon such participants as Turkey will inevitably get dragged into the funnel of war. In Iraq and Afghanistan anti-government militant groups will become very active. Finally the conflict will focus on the fighting for the control over the territories with major oil resources. That is exactly with the U.S. is after.

The eventual possession of the oil treasury by one of the conflicting sides will provoke harsh resistance from both Asia and Europe. Russia is also very likely to get provoked into becoming an active participant. In the end this might become the Ultimate Fifth Act, in which no one wishes to believe…

Political Scientist’s Opinion

Alexander Prohanov, the main editor of “Zavtra” Newspaper:“Apocalypse Tomorrow”

- The pulling of the trigger leading to the tragic chain of events has been done. Syria and Iran will be pulled into the war right after Lebanon. Israeli and American attacks on Iran will lead to the interruption of oil exports into Europe and China. Their economies will suffer. In the conclusion there will be chaos all across Asia.

The detonation device for the new apocalypse has been set off by Americans, obviously. They believe that they have the power and the authority to regulate the world’s chaos. But the U.S. cannot even gain control over its own minor chaos in Latin America. Let us only hope that Russia will remain neutral throughout this universal nightmare.

Military’s Opinion

Alexander Vladimirov, major general and vice-president of the Board of Military Experts of Russia:“Collision of Civilizations”

- This war is utterly futile for either one of the sides. And as the one lacking in logic it is all the more dangerous. The most dangerous aspect lies in the fact that Israel (and perhaps even Iran by now) possess nuclear weapons and are able to put them to use. This means the beginning of the global war because other countries will not be able to remain uninvolved in the collision of civilizations of this magnitude.

Source: Moskovskii Komsomolets

Translated by Natalia Vysotskaya


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; august22; bigbang; china; conflict; iran; irannukes; middleeast; nuclear; nuclearwar; nuke; nukes; russia; war
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To: Mr. Mojo

.....so no, they wouldn't join Iran in the fight.


21 posted on 08/17/2006 9:59:39 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Centurion2000

Better reserve a few kegs at the Liquor Locker.


22 posted on 08/17/2006 10:00:43 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Mr. Mojo

Correct. Sunnis consider Persian Shiites worse infidels than us, Americans. The Shiite's are apostates, a far worse sinners that need killin' than us, deluded infidels. Saudis and the rest of the Arab world would love to see Iran turned into a wasteland.


23 posted on 08/17/2006 10:01:21 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: Centurion2000


Kurds flee homes as Iran shells Iraq's northern frontier
Michael Howard in Qandil Mountain
Friday August 18, 2006 The Guardian

Kurdish PKK fighters in northern Iraq. Photograph: Michael Howard

Turkey and Iran have dispatched tanks, artillery and thousands of troops to their frontiers with Iraq during the past few weeks in what appears to be a coordinated effort to disrupt the activities of Kurdish rebel bases.
Scores of Kurds have fled their homes in the northern frontier region after four days of shelling by the Iranian army. Local officials said Turkey had also fired a number of shells into Iraqi territory.

Some displaced families have pitched tents in the valleys behind Qandil Mountain, which straddles Iraq's rugged borders with Turkey and Iran. They told the Guardian yesterday that at least six villages had been abandoned and one person had died following a sustained artillery barrage by Iranian forces that appeared designed to flush out guerrillas linked to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), who have hideouts in Iraq.

Although fighting between Turkish security forces and PKK militants is nowhere near the scale of the 1980s and 90s - which accounted for the loss of more than 30,000 mostly Turkish Kurdish lives- at least 15 Turkish police officers have died in clashes. The PKK's sister party in Iran, the Kurdistan Free Life Party (Pejak), has stepped up activities against security targets in Kurdish regions. Yesterday, Kurdish media said eight Iranian troops were killed.

Rostam Judi, a PKK leader, claimed yesterday that no operations against Turkey or Iran were being launched from Iraqi territory. "We have fighters across south-eastern Turkey. Our presence in Iraq is purely for political work."


24 posted on 08/17/2006 10:03:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: knighthawk; GarySpFc

bump and ping


25 posted on 08/17/2006 10:03:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Centurion2000
Perhaps simply because Washington has set a deadline for the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and has demanded a complete wrap up of the nuclear program by that day.

Actually, the UN had given a deadline (complete wrap up) by August 31st, Ahmadnijead of Iran said that he would give his reply on August 22nd.

but Tel-Aviv has still not given its consent. The U.S. is not in hurry to give the green light either.

Umm.. The U.S. did give the green light when they voted with the UN security council.

Russia is also very likely to get provoked into becoming an active participant. In the end this might become the Ultimate Fifth Act, in which no one wishes to believe…

Won't happen. The Russians (Former Soviets) will realize (because they are sane, and the Muzzies aren't.) that an agreement can be forged with the United States on this very point. If it is coming to that, I'll bet money that Putin and Bush have hotlined this already.

Sorry, but Pravda wrote better articles in the cold war.
26 posted on 08/17/2006 10:03:12 PM PDT by lmr (You can have my Tactical Nuclear Weapons when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Centurion2000

Surprisingly, I feel okay. I have duct tape.


27 posted on 08/17/2006 10:03:37 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: farlander
That's new news to me, I always thought that they had their I.C.B.M.s ( or the majority of them ) pointed at the US, and not China, I always thought ( in recent times, since they are buddy buddies ) China and Russia were on good terms.
28 posted on 08/17/2006 10:03:41 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: ndt
OMG!! Quick everyone sell me your house at .10 on the dollar off so you can enjoy your last days with some spending cash.

What the heck do you think CC's are for ? ;)

29 posted on 08/17/2006 10:04:09 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: MissouriConservative

The only principle Moskovskii Komsolets stands for anymore is the belief that everything wrong in Russia (and the world) is the fault of the Americans.


30 posted on 08/17/2006 10:04:44 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: ConservativeMind

Rational, informed, sensible, useful, sincere, respectful questions are more likely to be answered.

I'm rarely impressed with questions by folks who demonstrate a gross and hideous lack of awareness or study of the codes with any objectivity and seriousness.


31 posted on 08/17/2006 10:05:52 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: MissouriConservative
I wouldn't doubt it. And don't count Russia out either. Putin has been sneaking around making deals behind everyones back. It wouldn' suprize me at all, plus, according to prophacy, it's very likely that Turkey, Russia, Iran, and a few others form a new eastern block.

The Four Empires of Persia

Ten Nations The Confederation of the Medes

Of course, this is all just biblical fiction, but if you want to know what the bible says about these times without having to read it and figure it out, this is about as simple as you can get.

Draw your own conclusions as to how it relates to what's going on in the world today, and if you are really inerested, read the whole book, it's free.

32 posted on 08/17/2006 10:08:04 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Centurion2000
"What the heck do you think CC's are for ? ;)"

I only need one taker :)

I do have a question for all those how actually believe that biblical Armageddon will commence in a couple days.

Why are you all still here and does that worry you? (Those who subscribe to a post trib rapture exempted)
33 posted on 08/17/2006 10:08:08 PM PDT by ndt
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To: farlander

Had this discussion yesterday with an Ex-Air Force buddy, and a couple of other Ex-Mil types...

Russia sits this one out. Any attacks that stop oil flowing are positive for a cash-strapped Russia, and drives thier own Muslim problems south, away from Russian territory.

They have a couple of areas, mainly the Urals passes areas, that are in near-open insurrection as it is right now.


34 posted on 08/17/2006 10:09:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: ndt
Why are you all still here and does that worry you?

I'm just thinking that if Iran does pop off anything serious they do not have the horsepower to devastate the US. Even if russia got involved it's launchers are no longer enough to saturate the US and besides that ... I live outside of a primary strike zone.

35 posted on 08/17/2006 10:10:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Mo1
ROFL!

36 posted on 08/17/2006 10:10:20 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Enterprise
"make sure you max out all your credit cards first"

Like maybe buy a whole lot of Heineken? Nah, I pay my debts.


37 posted on 08/17/2006 10:11:34 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: tcrlaf
I wonder how long it will take the MSM to get up to speed on this story as headline news, if ever ?
38 posted on 08/17/2006 10:11:36 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
"Yup... after this happens, you will be able to pick up Green Glass from Mecca really cheap on Ebay soon."

I'd pay for some Meccan jade Or Meccan emerald. The stuff closest to the rock pile (Allahs house) would be the premium stuff, and should be most pure and translucent.

39 posted on 08/17/2006 10:11:51 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Centurion2000

"besides that ... I live outside of a primary strike zone."

Glad to hear it, but unless you live on the Oregon Coast, you'll spend months underground, and your grandchildren will have 6 fingers if the balloon goes up.

Imagine New Orleans magnified by the Nth Degree...


40 posted on 08/17/2006 10:12:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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