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Legal analyst: Break in (JonBenet) Ramsey case could be Hoax
WTSP TV - Channel 10 ^ | August 17, 2006 | WTSP TV - Channel 10

Posted on 08/17/2006 1:41:53 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Legal analyst: Break in Ramsey case could be hoax

DENVER (KUSA) - 9NEWS legal analyst Scott Robinson believes there are still too many questions about the suspect, John Mark Karr, to feel confident about conviction.

“In this particular case when you have an uncorroborated confession, I think it’s good to be cynical and to be skeptical,” Robinson said. “The suspect seems to be ducking questions about his connection to the Ramsey family… how the little girl came to be in the basement with him in the first place.”

Robinson believes one thing is clear, however. This is the biggest development in the case so far.

“This is either the break that we have all been waiting for, or the biggest hoax that’s ever been perpetrated in the JonBenet Ramsey case, a case that has had its share of wacky people involved in it.”

However, DNA evidence could make this an open and shut case in a very short period of time.

“If they can tie [Karr] to the Ramsey home, or to any of the physical evidence at the scene… the case is pretty much done and over,” Robinson said.

“These days you can get a presumptive DNA test done in a day if you have good tissue and certainly a definitive result in a week. So we will know pretty soon if there is a DNA match,” Robinson explained after being asked how long it might take to get this evidence evaluated.

The problem Robinson is concerned with is what happens if the DNA evidence is inconclusive.

“His father says this is a young man who became obsessed with the case and wrote about it for a college paper. That sets the stage for a potential defense that [Karr] didn’t commit the crime, he’s just obsessed with it.”

Will the various issues with compromised evidence and crime scene have a major impact on the outcome of the case? Robinson believes it may help the prosecution as much as it could help the defense.

“That’s a sword that cuts both ways. For those advocating his guilt, perhaps that’s why his DNA was not found at the scene, because the scene was hopelessly compromised in the first few moments of the investigation.”

When asked if he believed the day of an arrest would ever arrive, he responded with conviction.

“Never! Ever! It’s an extraordinary development,” Robinson said. “What we are looking at here is either: the biggest break ever in the JonBenet Ramsey case, or the biggest hoax since the young girl’s body was found in the basement.”

From our sister station KUSA-TV in Denver, All Rights Reserved


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: hoax; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; karr; notbreaking; ramsey
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To: discostu

Choose with method to get the truth: The humane way or inhumane way


61 posted on 08/17/2006 4:16:03 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: garbageseeker

Sodium pentathol isn't an option either. The real option, the only real option, is proper investigation. Hopefully that's what they've actually based the arrest on.


62 posted on 08/17/2006 4:16:31 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: garbageseeker

The right way, investigation. SP doesn't really work much better than a polygraph, especially not for people falling into category 2, the insane.


63 posted on 08/17/2006 4:17:31 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: Brooklyn Kid
But I admit, he looks more and more like someone just yearning for attention and involvement in this case in any way he can get it.

This guy's in a Thai jail for other reasons. This may just be an attempt to get himself transferred back to the USA, after which he can just say "never mind, I just needed out of the Thai jail!".

64 posted on 08/17/2006 4:18:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: discostu

People are only afraid of polygraph tests because they have things to hide.


65 posted on 08/17/2006 4:19:03 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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If you have nothing to hide then you will pass the test


66 posted on 08/17/2006 4:19:54 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Robinson believes one thing is clear, however. This is the biggest development in the case so far.

This Robinson guy is an idiot. He believes that the confession is a hoax. That the confession is a made up story by a nutjob trying to gain 15 minutes of fame. After it is learned that the nutjob has no connection to the case otherwise, the investigation will be exactly where it was 5 days ago, which is nowhere. How can this be the biggest development in the case so far? All it serves to do is get the media camera crews, of which there are far too many, something to have a big frenzy over. It fills up time on TV and gets people's hearts all a-flutter, but it is in no way a development.

67 posted on 08/17/2006 4:23:10 PM PDT by webheart (Have a nice day!)
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To: garbageseeker
No people are afraid of polygraph tests because to be given one is to be under suspicion in the first place. And a lot of people have learned that the things are incredibly fallible. I'd be terrified to be given a polygraph because I know how dependent they are on voodoo pseudo-science and that the results are functionally random, having my freedom fall subject to something that basically is a crap shoot is a scary concept.
68 posted on 08/17/2006 4:23:40 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: garbageseeker

They don't work, just measure blood pressure.


69 posted on 08/17/2006 4:23:52 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: brytlea
"Well, it's too late for that now."

Exactly.

70 posted on 08/17/2006 4:24:06 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: garbageseeker

The big lie behind lie detector tests:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/950408/posts


71 posted on 08/17/2006 4:26:22 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: discostu
I'd be terrified to be given a polygraph because I know how dependent they are on voodoo pseudo-science and that the results are functionally random, having my freedom fall subject to something that basically is a crap shoot is a scary concept.

The FBI,CIA and DoD uses the polygraph as part of their internal security checks. If they use it as part of their internal security program successfully for decades its fine with me. Of course they have hit bumps on the road they think its still reliable. Again, if you have nothing to hide you will pass the test with flying colors.
72 posted on 08/17/2006 4:29:16 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: mom4kittys

Its just one persons opinion.


73 posted on 08/17/2006 4:29:47 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: garbageseeker

How many big time leaks and outright spies have they had since instituting the polygraph testing? Doesn't seem like they've been using them successfully to me. I doubt they think it's reliable, they just don't have anything better. Not having something to hide is no garauntee of passing a polygraph, that's the big lie of the polygraph companies.


74 posted on 08/17/2006 4:32:10 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Wow, glad to this posted -- on FR of course. Had a chance to read some news story on the guy -- sounds very strange. And his ex says he was with her in Atlanta during the time of the murder. Variation on Munchasen, possibly, the man may have been pulled into pedophilia by an original interest in murders -- the Polly Klass and this case being the two major ones. And his guilt feelings subliminate and come out as him convincing himself he murdered the Ramsey girl. My 25 cents is now exhausted ...


75 posted on 08/17/2006 4:34:10 PM PDT by bvw
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I think it is telling that when he was arrested in California in 2001 for child porn charges he *thought* he was being arrested for the Ramsey case. Secondly, the e-mail name Karr used in communicating with the CU professor was "Daxis". The name of the Polly Klaas killer was Davis. Substitute the "v" for an "x" and you have "Daxis".

This tells me that Daxis/Karr was an admirer of Richard Allen Davis, Klass' killer and studied him so he could try to emulate him. However, I don't think this scrawny waif had the nerve to kill the way Davis killed. I think he glommed onto the Ramsey case after the fact and may have even bragged about killing JBR as a way to make himself seem important among the pedophile community. Over time, he convinced himself he was there when I suspect he was not. Yet, he provided enough information that the police couldn't ignore him and grabbed him when they had the chance so as to settle whether he was indeed the killer or not.


76 posted on 08/17/2006 4:35:03 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: discostu
How many big time leaks and outright spies have they had since instituting the polygraph testing?

That is why you have regular examinations to prevent cheating. Again, its not perfect, but its still reliable enough to warrant further investigation of the subject if the test comes out negative. There are no guarantees in life.
77 posted on 08/17/2006 4:35:43 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: garbageseeker

But they DON'T prevent cheating. If anything regular exams help teach the people how to beat the machine. It's way less than not perfect, it's randomized to the point of being basically useless. If the polygraph is so great how did Ames get away with it for so long? Answer is: the polygraph is worthless and should be discarded and never used again by anybody ever.


78 posted on 08/17/2006 4:38:57 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: garbageseeker

I wonder if you take too many polygraph test if you become used to them and pass more often??

But back to the confessor, has anybody reported seeing him around the kiddie beauty pageants? My gut feeling is he is a nutcase. Wasn't there a security system at the Ramsey house? Plus, if he is the killer, has he killed again? I would thinkhe would show up on somebody's suspect list somewhere?

parsy, the skeptical.


79 posted on 08/17/2006 4:41:04 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: discostu
But they DON'T prevent cheating. If anything regular exams help teach the people how to beat the machine. It's way less than not perfect, it's randomized to the point of being basically useless. If the polygraph is so great how did Ames get away with it for so long? Answer is: the polygraph is worthless and should be discarded and never used again by anybody ever.

The Ames affair is an anomaly and you will get one.IMHO, it looks like they have corrected it and I have not heard a CIA spy case in quite a while.It looks like they have fixed the mistakes and have revampted their methods.
80 posted on 08/17/2006 4:43:41 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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