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LIVE Thread: AG Gonzalez to comment on NSA wiretap ruling
FNC | August 18, 2006 | FNC Press Conference

Posted on 08/17/2006 1:02:27 PM PDT by Peach

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To: lepton

But the Plaintiffs argued that they had a constitutional right to converse with terrorists (actually they said those considered to be such by the U.S. Gov't) and this 'right of privacy' in connection with having discussions with these terrorists was protected against warrantless wiretaps. The Judge ruled the Plaintiffs had demonstrated tangible harm in having their terrorist contacts become relunctant to engage in telephone conversations due to this program.

I am not kidding.


81 posted on 08/17/2006 2:42:44 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Lazamataz

Some anti-Bush types are suggesting the whole August 10 plot may have been a hoax, such as Craig Murray (former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan) and James K. Galbraith (professor at UT Austin & son of the late John Kenneth Galbraith).


82 posted on 08/17/2006 2:46:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Diggs is not "her daddy" -- he's her ex-husband.

http://www.daahp.wayne.edu/biographiesDisplay.asp?id=64

83 posted on 08/17/2006 2:47:10 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: glad2bdad

That's a woman?!
Please, somebody pass the pie.


--

She looks like an older sister of one of the American Idol contestants..

btw,, I'm out of pie, how about a barf bag and we cut to the chase. lol


84 posted on 08/17/2006 3:01:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks for posting that info on her baggage.


85 posted on 08/17/2006 3:01:56 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

BTTT


86 posted on 08/17/2006 3:02:17 PM PDT by hattend (Stop! No more! The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised! - Zapp Brannigan:)
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To: Peach
Today a District Court Judge ruled it was unlawful and we disagree with the decision and we've appealed the decision. There's a stay in place so we willl continue to utilize the program!!!

I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me you can keep it in the courts for YEARS... spinning from one layer to the other layer. Keep 'em busy with all that paper.

87 posted on 08/17/2006 3:02:32 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: Arrowhead1952

Her husband was Charles Diggs II who was censured by the Michigan House in 1980 and resigned after being convicted of operating a kickback scheme.


88 posted on 08/17/2006 3:04:52 PM PDT by kempster
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To: antiRepublicrat
Mind if I come over to your house and inspect everything, what's in your sock drawer, phone records, computer, etc., and publish the results on the Internet?

Do you have reason to think Arrowhead1952 intends to harm the US?

US government kept records of addresses of citizenry and opened mail during WWII:

Consequently, [A.S. Hudson -- administrator of the Fort Lincoln Detention Station] sought authorization to bring in a full-time German-speaking intelligence officer to eavesdrop on the detainees and to gather information on the nearby populace.

Some of the citizenry, he feared, might assist in escape attempts. Intelligence work, he argued, should also include examination of the detainees' incoming and outgoing mail in order to determine their attitudes.

On the basis of this opinion, Hudson and his staff set up index cards for each detainee, recording on them the names and addresses on all outgoing mail and the writers' names, addresses, and dates of arrival on all incoming mail. This practice would soon become standard procedure at all the INS camps.

A sampling of mail was to be opened and read. In addition, the chief patrol inspector ordered incoming packages inspected for unspecified contraband prior to delivery to the Germans.


89 posted on 08/17/2006 3:05:16 PM PDT by syriacus (Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
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To: Peach
When did it become unconstitutional to spy during a war?
91 posted on 08/17/2006 3:16:40 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: lepton

Well said. It also gets down to the definition of domestic and international calls. We all know what the definition of an international call is - the term has been defined for years. They are monitoring primarily international calls where one end is in a foreign country. The word domestic is misleading.


92 posted on 08/17/2006 3:55:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk; All

From the lefties at Mojowire:

Of course the bloodless ghouls of Freeperville (sorry, I don't have the emotional energy to link there) have completely spun out...

I think they are over their cognitive dissonance and have finally embraced their fascist leanings, openly saying that the Preznit should just ignore the court, under the rubric of "Oh yeah? Well, who's gonna make us stop? You?"

That and of course, that the court is actually in support of terrorism, so anything they say should not count...


http://mojowire.blogspot.com/


93 posted on 08/17/2006 4:03:17 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (http://HeartofAmerica.bravehost.com....Interactive for Conservatives)
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To: Peach

"Today a District Court Judge ruled it was unlawful and we disagree with the decision and we've appealed the decision. There's a stay in place so we willl continue to utilize the program!!!"

Thank heavens .

Thank you,Peach, for the reports.


94 posted on 08/17/2006 4:13:58 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks for the backgrounder!


95 posted on 08/17/2006 4:23:33 PM PDT by maica (Creating human shields is a war crime. It is also a Hezbollah specialty.-- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: San Jacinto
The Judge ruled the Plaintiffs had demonstrated tangible harm in having their terrorist contacts become reluctant to engage in telephone conversations due to this program.

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This is a most amazing announcement of the plaintiffs' position. Apparently a lot of people in the Michigan area are regularly conversing with possible terrorists in foreign countries. Any American speaking to anyone in Pakistan should not have a presumption of privacy. Period. Full stop. If they have to discuss their plots, they will have to find another way, that can not be traced by an NSA program.

96 posted on 08/17/2006 4:38:37 PM PDT by maica (Creating human shields is a war crime. It is also a Hezbollah specialty.-- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Phlap

When a Republican does it. Clearly the leftists had no problem with Clinton's Eschelon program which spied on Americans. Without benefit of a warrant.


97 posted on 08/17/2006 4:40:38 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

you mean the etcetra clause, the one that voids parking tickets?


98 posted on 08/17/2006 4:46:01 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Peach

Hugh Hewitt, an attorney, (has taught law, may still, I don't know), is ripping today's ruling. He says it isn't even close. It's a ruling a first year law student would get dinged for.


99 posted on 08/17/2006 5:14:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ann Beeson, the American Civil Liberties Union's associate legal director and the lead attorney and obviously a hippy.


100 posted on 08/17/2006 5:24:21 PM PDT by omega4179 (When was Clinton going to fight in the trenches for Israel?)
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