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Accidental Gunshots Vex LAPD (Lowering the standards will do that)
LA Times ^ | 8/17/06 | Scott Glover and Matt Lait, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:55:11 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Since 1985, there have been more than 350 accidental discharges by LAPD officers. There also have been more than a dozen so-called friendly fire incidents.

Though the resulting wounds tended to be less serious than in gun battles with suspects, scores of officers and more than two dozen suspects and bystanders have been injured in incidents that department officials blame on careless handling of firearms.

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One off-duty officer shot himself in a leg as he sat behind his desk and, according to department records, contemplated "a complex mathematical problem." Another officer inadvertently pulled the trigger when his African gray parrot flew into his face.

One officer accidentally shot his girlfriend in a leg while trying to retrieve a cartridge from his handgun as a "memento" of their date. Yet another officer admitted that he accidentally fired his gun because he was startled by a woman holding a teddy bear. Two officers accidentally discharged their weapons as they handled them at home while watching themselves in mirrors.

Even officers from the department's elite SWAT unit have accidentally fired guns while on duty.

In one case, officers had just completed a highly dangerous operation in which they entered the home of a barricaded suspect. Though they emerged from the house unscathed, one of them errantly fired his shotgun while unloading ammunition from another weapon. Shotgun pellets struck the ground between his feet, with metal fragments ricocheting into his partner's upper leg.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; donutwatch; leo
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To: BurbankKarl

There is simply no excuse for this. There is also no such thing as an 'accidental discharge'; There is only a 'negligent discharge', with the emphasis on the word negligent.


21 posted on 08/17/2006 12:35:30 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: ozzymandus

I was thinking they never had this problem with revolvers.. Not in this proportion anyway.

Maybe Andy should just give them one bullet and have them carry it in their pocket.


22 posted on 08/17/2006 12:36:52 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: BRITinUSA
especially this one:

The officer thought he had removed all of the rounds from the cylinder of his .38-caliber weapon when he pointed it at a wall and began to explain "trigger pull pressure." As he pulled the trigger, a round that had been left in the chamber discharged into the wall.

23 posted on 08/17/2006 12:42:28 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: BurbankKarl
What did the ethnic origin of the parrot have to do with the subject of the story?

his African gray parrot

More racism from the mainstream media.

Just applying liberal reasoning to the liberals.

24 posted on 08/17/2006 12:44:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BurbankKarl
Yet another officer admitted that he accidentally fired his gun because he was startled by a woman holding a teddy bear.

Ok, that really makes these LEOs look bad.

25 posted on 08/17/2006 12:50:36 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: PAR35

Darn right! It's not an African gray parrot, it's a parrot of color.


26 posted on 08/17/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by bad company (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for FReeper kanawa)
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To: PAR35
What did the ethnic origin of the parrot have to do with the subject of the story?

Does it matter what it's unladen airspeed is?

28 posted on 08/17/2006 1:03:11 PM PDT by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: Beelzebubba
I wonder how their entrance IQ test scores have changed in recent generations.

....One off-duty officer shot himself in a leg as he sat behind his desk and, according to department records, contemplated "a complex mathematical problem."....

29 posted on 08/17/2006 1:07:20 PM PDT by relee
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To: BurbankKarl

The problem is "Glockitis" and keeping the Barney Finger on the trigger.

I shoot all the time, and the ONLY accidental discharge I ever had was with a Glock.

I pack a 1911. If the hammer isn't cocked, you don't have to worry at all.


30 posted on 08/17/2006 1:32:58 PM PDT by 308MBR ( I don't really want to know WHAT you have to do to be arrested for a sex crime in Bangkok!)
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To: ozzymandus
Are they still carrying Glocks?

last i heard, LAPD SWAT has kimber 1911s.
31 posted on 08/17/2006 1:44:45 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: absolootezer0

Well, that is Metropolitan Division with the Kimbers. Rank and file can select three different sidearms...plus these statistics go back to the pre 92F days.


32 posted on 08/17/2006 2:52:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: 308MBR

Well I own to Glocks and I have yet to have a negligent discharge. Maybe because that's all I own I always remember rule #2.

NEVER PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE.


33 posted on 08/17/2006 2:57:06 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: bad company
You wouldn't have to worry about shooting a Norwegian Blue.
34 posted on 08/17/2006 3:52:19 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Covenantor
The officer thought he had removed all of the rounds from the cylinder of his .38-caliber weapon when he pointed it at a wall and began to explain "trigger pull pressure." As he pulled the trigger, a round that had been left in the chamber discharged into the wall.

That's one of those new-fangled self-loading revo's.

35 posted on 08/17/2006 4:11:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: stm
There is no such thing as an "accidental discharge". A much more appropriate (though much less politically correct) is a NEGLIGENT discharge. The US Army stopped using the "accidental discharge" term a long time ago. Negligence in one form or another always precedes this kind or occurrence

Although most accidental discharges, and nearly all accidental discharges resulting in injury, involve negligence, there are some exceptions. Things like slam fires can sometimes occur even with properly-maintained weapons. On the other hand, if a slam-fire injures someone, odds are good that it's because someone was careless.

36 posted on 08/17/2006 10:18:17 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: thulldud
Does it matter what it's unladen airspeed is?

Of course. If it is faster than a speeding bullet, it might just have a chance of staying alive around LA cops.

37 posted on 08/18/2006 1:32:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: 308MBR

I have always been a revolver guy. Revolvers give me great confidence.


38 posted on 08/18/2006 1:41:46 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lovecraft

Oh.... Wise guy..... Nyuuk nyuuk nyuuk.


39 posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:22 AM PDT by Bullish ( The pig headed monkeys of Islam can kiss my grits!)
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To: supercat

Negligence is not limited to just the officer(s) in question but anyone involved with the maintenance and inspection of all the weapons. A slam discharge or doubling is a maintenance issue. But this is an extremely rare occurance in my experience, in fact in almost 20 years with the US Army, I have never even seen it happen. But I have seen numerous ND's due to negligence, carelessness or out and out recklessness.


40 posted on 08/18/2006 8:57:21 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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