Federal Judge rules NSA surveillance unconstitutional!

ABC Radio News | 8/17/2006 | ABC Radio News

[sinkspur]

A federal district judge in Detroit has ruled that the Bush administration's NSA surveillance of phone conversations is unconstitutional.

[RustMartialis]

"The judge admitted they didn't have standing but she also claims she had no choice but to rule because the government refused to give up national security secrets. She's trying to have it both way, if they didn't have standing the case should have ended regardless what the government was willing to reveal."

i) No, the Judge ruled they DO have standing. Page 24 of the decision.

ii) You're wrong about the basis of the decision too. The Judge said there was adequate information in the public record to determine the TSP was both illegal and unconstitutional without needing to involved protected information. The additional claim of data-mining WAS tossed on the State Secrets basis.

People should stop repeating this sort of crap if they haven't read the decision.

--R.

[Txsleuth]

I took the littlest one shopping...get in my car, turn on the radio, and Rush is breaking the news that the most effective tool we have to stop terrorist's attacks like the one that was SUPPOSED to happen yesterday..

IS UNCONSTITUIONAL...according to a Jimmy Carter appointed civil rights judge??????????

I am ready to blow my brains out...(how is that for a reaction?)

[tobyhill]

This judge is a nut-job that has one ambition, to be in the history books as the judge that ruled on a government "privacy" case that ended in the folding of the NSA. I am convinced Jimmy Carter called her recently.

[Recovering_Democrat]

SCREW THIS JUDGE. NOBODY ELECTED HIM/HER/IT. LET'S GET THIS OVERRULED TONIGHT BY SCOTUS.

[hipaatwo]

That could be just ABP impression. You used to work for a lawyer didn't you? Michelle Malkin has the pdf of the ruling. Here's the 44-page opinion.

[Recovering_Democrat]

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor Traitor

There. Fixed.

[NinoFan]

You're assuming it will be overruled by SCOTUS.

Please remember that the SCOTUS is not in originalist or conservative hands yet. Kennedy is very unpredictable.

I do think this will be overruled by the appeals court and then SCOTUS will deny cert, but if the appellate court was to uphold the ruling and then the SCOTUS took the case at the request of the administration, I'm not at all sure how they'd rule.

[Purrcival]

As soon as I read the headline, without even reading the article, I knew it had to be that idiot Democrat-appointed judge in Detroit. The ACLU cherry-picked that judge because they KNEW they would get this result from her.

Begging to be overturned....

[KoRn]

Lets pretend this judge would have ruled this way a year ago. The plot in Britain would have went forward because we wouldn't have been listening in on them. This judge would have blood on her hands.

One can only imagine what plots that could be underway now that will go on uninterrupted if this judge's ruling is listened to. I'm hoping that the administration ignores this ruling, because the ruling in itself is unconstitutional. A judge had better have a damn good reason for telling the President how to conduct a war.

[OBXWanderer]

f she has children with guy, might be the reason ... many women still keep their married name after a divorce .. unless they remarry

But that is what I saying, she married some guy named Taylor. Wonder what Mr. Taylor think of her using some ex's name?

[Just A Nobody]

if the Hildabeast were in the White House in 2008, would you feel comfortable with HER use of this power?

You are kidding right? The 'Toons, nor any demonRAT, give a rat's arse what a tyrannical judicial ruling says, or what established law says, or what the Constitution says, or what the people say. They will steal, kill and destroy without any repercussions. As a matter a fact, they have already done so, on numerous occasions.

To deny President Bush the legitimate authority of the executive office, for fear that Mrs. BJ 'Toon may one day hold that office, is ludicrous.

[Skooz]

So the ACLU filed the case in Detroit?

How does it work that they can choose which court or judge hears the case?

I plead true ignorance here. Anyone know?

[NinoFan]

Oh lordy, another troll.

[Just A Nobody]

As a liberal .....

Why would you register on a CONSERVATIVE forum?

[Mo1]

You used to work for a lawyer didn't you?

Yea .. but I worked in the accounting department and could hide from them most of the time and only sometimes helped out the secretaries when they found me *L*

Thanks for the link .. I'll have to read this thing

[Just A Nobody]

They are coming out of the wordwork around here this month!

[RustMartialis]

"The President is specifically tasked with protecting the country."

Actually, he swore to "preserve, protect and defend the US Constitution" in his Oath of Office.

"He should be able to make a judgment as to when to invoke FISA and when FISA would be detrimental."

No, he shouldn't. The President doesn't make the laws, and he doesn't decide which he likes and dislikes. Does the phrase "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" ring a bell?

The utter lack of respect people have for the Constitution when you scare them is utterly predictable. Some of us prefer to agree with Patrick Henry on the tradeoff of liberty for personal safety.

--R.

[hipaatwo]

but I worked in the accounting department

Dad-CPA
Brother-tax attorney
Uncle-PA

Hipaatwo-H.S. graduate with a 140 I.Q. LOL

[Mo1]

Mo1 = school of hard knocks *L*