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To: sinkspur
Lets pretend this judge would have ruled this way a year ago. The plot in Britain would have went forward because we wouldn't have been listening in on them. This judge would have blood on her hands.

One can only imagine what plots that could be underway now that will go on uninterrupted if this judge's ruling is listened to. I'm hoping that the administration ignores this ruling, because the ruling in itself is unconstitutional. A judge had better have a damn good reason for telling the President how to conduct a war.
249 posted on 08/17/2006 11:05:37 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn
Lets pretend this judge would have ruled this way a year ago. The plot in Britain would have went forward because we wouldn't have been listening in on them.

I don't recall any warrantless wiretaps by the NSA being involved in the British investigation. Do you have a cite for that?

And, assuming for the moment that an NSA wiretap existed in the British investigation, why do you say "we wouldn't have been listening in on them?" Was there something about that investigation that would have prevented acquisition of a wiretap warrant?

274 posted on 08/17/2006 11:47:57 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Congressman Billybob
Does a federal judge actually have jurisdiction over executive orders?
Section. 2.
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Are executive orders "law"?
315 posted on 08/17/2006 12:26:43 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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