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Islamic terrorism linked to Nazi fascists
Spero News ^ | Aug 14, 2006 | Robert Duncan

Posted on 08/16/2006 11:23:16 AM PDT by Bokababe

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To: muawiyah

And all this bizarre drivel re Byzantium has to do with the subject of this article, how? In fact, it doesn't. You just used it as an excuse to rant on about Byzantium.

No, I don't feel sorry for the Moslems and the Byzantine Empire hasn't been around for about 700 years, so Islam has no excuse. Get over it.


41 posted on 08/16/2006 1:19:00 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: eleni121
BTW, Byzantium is gone. It was destroyed long ago.

Their successor state is also gone. It was destoyed in WWI as it was allied to Germany and the other Axis powers.

We are now dealing with the dregs of that polity in the identiy of the Islamofascists.

42 posted on 08/16/2006 1:22:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
No real Christian will go over to the dark side. And anyone who describes Byzantium as a "fascist state" - how ridiculous - apparently has done so.

Sources? Where are they? C'mon...let's see.
43 posted on 08/16/2006 1:29:28 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: eleni121
Mussolini is a pretty good source ~ him and his fascist movement. They paid respects to Ancient Rome, but they looked to Byzantium for the "how to do it" parts.

And yes, in England, real Christians converted to Islam and joined up with terrorists.

This sort of thing has been going on a very long time.

44 posted on 08/16/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Squawk 8888

They are Borg like as well. Just look at that black rock in Mecca, the Kaaba.


45 posted on 08/16/2006 1:33:10 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I actually think that the character of "Borg" was based on Islam, although others have argued that the Klingons were more repesentative of Islam.


46 posted on 08/16/2006 1:36:57 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: muawiyah

I've heard it said that the Greeks were good at running city-states but very bad with larger organizational structures like an empire. They did waste a lot of resources trying to conquer back the Western Roman Empire.


47 posted on 08/16/2006 1:47:53 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: muawiyah

in England, real Christians converted to Islam and joined up with terrorists.




"real Christians"? Prove it...but you can't. no "real" christian denies the Lord and Savior and crosses over to the dark side unless he becomes possessed.


48 posted on 08/16/2006 1:48:36 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: eleni121

That's one theory. I suggest you take it up with Prime Minister Blair however. All I know is what I read in the same news sites that you do.


49 posted on 08/16/2006 2:05:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sheik yerbouty

The "black rock" is a meteor that's not all that big. You sure you're not referring to the black curtains hanging down?


50 posted on 08/16/2006 2:06:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bokababe

Two Empires, that of the Klingon and that of the Empire (in Star Wars) are much more like the Japanese Empire than Islam.


51 posted on 08/16/2006 2:08:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; eleni121

Enough. Knock it off.


52 posted on 08/16/2006 2:09:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: thoughtomator
Bzzt, wrong answer. One of their first measures was a "enthanasia" program to kill TB sufferers etc. They murdered their children to advance their agendas, and they murdered other people's children, and they stole other people's children, and they drilled their own to fight with panzerfausts and machine pistols at age 14 and 12 etc. They are really quite exactly the same.
53 posted on 08/16/2006 3:34:26 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: fredhead

It's true that the fascist party was started in Italy and came to power there under Mussolini c. 1922. But Hitler did borrow a lot of his ideology from Mussolini (e. g., Italian "Black Shirts" were the inspiration for Nazi "Brown Shirts," the economics of a "corporate state," extreme nationalism and military conquest). The two regimes formed the Axis alliance and fought side by side in many battles (especially in Africa) during WWII, despite the fact that Hitler and Mussolini did not always see eye to eye. In fact, Nazi troops rescued Mussolini from his first capture in 1944. So the "Allied propaganda machine" was not entirely off base in lumping the two regimes together and giving them the same name.


54 posted on 08/16/2006 3:40:05 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: muawiyah

Every picture I've ever seen of it was a large black cube. Given their mentality, I'll stick to my analogy..


55 posted on 08/16/2006 3:48:09 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Bokababe

Klingons seem more like space Berserkers..


56 posted on 08/16/2006 3:48:57 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Bokababe; kronos77; joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ...

Source

Nazi Roots Of Islamofascism

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Amin al-Husseini inspects SS troops.
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“Go out and murder the Jewish infidel in the name of the holy Koran . . . he who kills a Jew is assured of a place in the next world.”

Sounds like something Osama bin Laden would urge, doesn't it? Actually, this quote was uttered long before bin Laden was even born, by Amin al-Husseini, (1895-1974) Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The biography of Husseini reminds us that the term 'Islamofascism' is no mere neologism aimed at extreme Muslims in the wake of 9/11 - it is also a reminder of the Nazi roots of extreme Muslim anti-semitism that still rages today.

Husseini was one of the masterminds of the Holocaust. Husseini met with Hitler in 1941, and according to Adolf Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (later hung after Nuremburg for war crimes):"The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate he extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz."

Husseini recruited 21,000 Bosnian Muslims into the Scimitar division of the Waffen SS, which fought Marshal Tito's partisans in Yugoslavia.

If you think Husseini learned his anti-semitism from Hitler, you might be surprised to know it might have been the other way around. As early as 1920 Husseini was organizing pogroms against Jews while 'Palestine' was still under British control, killing hundreds of Jews and injuring many more.

Husseini's admiration for and collaboration with Nazism is by no means an isolated case. Hassan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, was also an 'ardent supporter' of Nazi Germany, as was Anwar Sadat, who spent four years in a British prison camp for collaboration with the Third Reich. In his 1978 autobiography, In Search of Identity, Sadat wrote:

"I was in our village for the summer vacation when Hitler marched from Munich to Berlin, to wipe out the consequences of Germany's defeat in World War I and rebuild his country. I gathered my friends and told them we ought to follow Hitler's example...."

One of the founders of Syria’s Ba'ath Party, Sami al-Joundi, said "We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books . . . . We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism."

Gamal Abdel Nasser's brother Nassiri translated Mein Kampf into arabic, and was an enthusiastic supporter of Hitler.

A mere three years after the Holocaust ended, first secretary-general of the Arab League Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam declared in bloodcurdling language reminiscent of the Final Solution that the 1948 war against the young state of Israel “will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.”

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Yasser Arafat

By the way, Yasser Arafat called Husseini a 'hero' - no surprise there, because Arafat's real name is Abd al-Rahman abd al-Bauf Arafat al-Qud al-Husseini.

Arafat was the Grand Mufti's nephew and he changed his name to obscure this fact. The torch was passed from Husseini to the Father of Modern Terrorism, whose Fatah party is now considered much more moderate than Hamas! Is it any wonder that books like Mein Kampf (a bestseller in Turkey and Palestine) and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion enjoy brisk sales throughout the Arab and Muslim world?

'Hitler' has even become something of a popular name for Palestinian children, and admiration for Hitler runs deep among many Palestinians.

Should it surprise us, then, to see pictures like this?

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Posted by Ken McCracken · 30 June 2006 08:39 AM

 

 



 

57 posted on 08/16/2006 5:22:36 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

Thanks, SA!

Yes, it is as I supected -- the word "Handzar" translates to "scimitar", because I have most often heard the Bosnian Nazi division called The Handzar Division.


58 posted on 08/16/2006 5:38:39 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: sheik yerbouty
There's no sense going about not really knowing what this thing is.

This is the "structure".  ~ your basic stone building which is protected from the elements by a large outer structure of teak finished over with stainless steel:

 

This is the "stone" in its stainless steel setting:

You can estimate the size of the stone from the hand to the left.

 

Islamic belief is that this is the site of Abraham's altar.  Supporting that idea is a collection of fosil timbers under or near the stone.  My informants found their time nearest this site too limited to get much of an idea what all was there.

59 posted on 08/16/2006 5:43:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Interesting, but it is a long way from Mount Moriah. In any case, they are at war with the US and other "kuffir".


60 posted on 08/16/2006 5:52:32 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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