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The Haditha Massacre: A Congressman Apologizes (Congressman John Kline Republican Minnesota)
Time ^ | Tuesday, Aug. 15, 2006 | Sally B Donnelly

Posted on 08/16/2006 4:32:54 AM PDT by IrishMike

Congressman John Kline, a Republican from Minnesota, was in the forefront of legislators this spring who expressed outrage at the incident in Haditha, Iraq, where 24 civilians were allegedly killed by U.S. Marines in November 2005. "This was a small number of Marines who fired directly on civilians and killed them," said Kline, after being briefed by Marine Corps officials. "This going to be an ugly story."

But this week Kline backed off considerably from his earlier comments. Prompted by the threat of a civil lawsuit against him by Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the Marine who is a focus of the investigation, he said in a written statement: "I want to express my sincere apology to the Marines of the 1st Squad, 3rd Platoon, Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, and especially SSgt Frank D. Wuterich. On November 19, 2005, in Haditha, Iraq, they were involved in an incident that resulted in the deaths of Iraqi civilians. Some news outlets have promoted incomplete statements attributed to me that gave the false impression that I have concluded those involved committed unlawful acts.

"I have the utmost faith that the Defense Department is fully investigating the matter and the appropriate decisions will be reached," Kline continued. "Should charges be brought against these Marines, and I do not know if they will be, the involved Marines deserve to be considered absolutely innocent until proven guilty. "

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: congress; election; elections; haditha; iraq; searchkline; seenit; senate; war; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 08/16/2006 4:32:56 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Good for Congressman John Kline. More congresscritters need to follow his example.


2 posted on 08/16/2006 4:42:32 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: IrishMike
Prompted by the threat of a civil lawsuit against him by Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the Marine who is a focus of the investigation...

This isn't an apology, it's a 'CYA' statement. Nothing like a good lawsuit to get a man to start 'crawfishing' (a Louisiana term for 'backpedaling').

3 posted on 08/16/2006 4:49:09 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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To: Coop; Just A Nobody; Chena

Glad that Kline came to his senses (even if he had a gun to his head). Will Murtha follow suit with an apology? It'll be very interesting to see what Diana Irey makes of this. At the very least, it puts Murtha's slander back in the news.


4 posted on 08/16/2006 4:50:11 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: IrishMike; pissant; SandRat; P-Marlowe; Congressman Billybob
But it may be a sign of the risks that candidates could face in criticizing U.S. troops as a midterm election approaches. "As a retired Colonel in the U.S. Marines," said Kline, who faces Coleen Rowley, the FBI whistleblower, this November, "I am especially proud of the sacrifices our men and women make day in and day out, especially in combat situations. And as a Marine Officer I would never want to publicly insinuate, implicitly or explicitly, that I have prejudged what took place that day on the battlefield or afterwards."

This increases my suspicion that both Kline's and Murtha's comments constitute command influence on the case. This retraction makes that even more likely.

Kline serves on the Pentagon-affecting "Armed Services" Committee, as does Murtha.

In short, both these congressmen received a briefing from unnamed Pentagon sources that caused them to come out with claims of Haditha Marine's guilt. Both are Marine colonels.

It appears that someone in the Pentagon had an interest in making these Marines appear guilty. They got their message very effectively to all potential court martial members. Two congressmen, one from each party who sit on Armed Forces and have the financial future of the Marines in their hands, have decreed that these Marines are guilty.

That is "Command Influence" of the worst sort.

5 posted on 08/16/2006 4:52:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: IrishMike

"The Marine Corps still has not officially acknowledged what all sides now accept as accurate: that the Iraqis that day were not killed by an IED."

All sides? The enemy and Time Magazine say it happened, the Marine Corps says "not so fast, lets check it out."

Who would you want to believe?

(Sorry for saying, 'The enemy AND Time Magazine' I understand they are one in the same.)


6 posted on 08/16/2006 4:54:45 AM PDT by Go Army.com (A slight modification of the story, bringing out the facts)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

Right on.

A) Kline only apologized because of the threat of the lawsuit. He's just sorry he got caught.

B) Kline's own words in his "apology": "Some news outlets have promoted incomplete statements attributed to me that gave the false impression that I have concluded those involved committed unlawful acts."

So he's blaming someone else, trying to throw responsibility off himself. Typical phony apology tactics. Just like Durbin's.

C) The praise should go to the members of Congress who DIDN'T jump on the blame-the-Marines bandwagon.

D) Like the Muslim rapists who tried to offer a phony apology to the girl they raped because they got caught, this "apology" reeks of insincerity and is too little, too late in any case. Kline's still as bad as Murtha.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 4:56:35 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: IrishMike

john kline should take Murtha out back.


8 posted on 08/16/2006 4:59:02 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: IrishMike
I am wondering just how much untrue information is being disseminated by some of these generals who deal with congress.

There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in the military who hate Rumsfeld with so much passion that they will do anything to undermine him.

They hate Rumsfeld's reformation at the Pentagon.

9 posted on 08/16/2006 5:02:59 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: xzins
It appears that someone in the Pentagon had an interest in making these Marines appear guilty

That someone who got the ear of two elected nits, should be revealed and removed. Murtha is toast.........

10 posted on 08/16/2006 5:05:30 AM PDT by yoe
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Prompted by the threat of a civil lawsuit against him by Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the Marine

Good for Sgt. Wuterich.

11 posted on 08/16/2006 5:07:53 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: xzins

That is "Command Influence" of the worst sort.
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I'd call it treason.


12 posted on 08/16/2006 5:08:47 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Go Army.com

(Sorry for saying, 'The enemy AND Time Magazine' I understand they are one in the same.)
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The truth NEVER requires an apology.


13 posted on 08/16/2006 5:10:34 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: CPT Clay

Wouldn't it be nice to hear one of these folks say, "You know, I shot my mouth off before having all the facts. I apologize for that and will keep an open mind in further proceedings." What are they afraid of?


14 posted on 08/16/2006 5:12:29 AM PDT by redwhit
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To: IrishMike
the involved Marines deserve to be considered absolutely innocent until proven guilty. "

I'm sure the congressman would expect such consideration if he were brought up on any charges. Yet, he publically impugned these Marines at an early stage in the investigation.

Beyond forgiveness, IMO. I draw no distinction between him and pig-Murtha. Klein needs to be ousted.

15 posted on 08/16/2006 5:13:31 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party, aka alQaeda, Western Division.)
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To: yoe

I agree.

However, if convicted, I will NEVER be able to believe that these Haditha marines got a fair trial. The deck was stacked against them from the beginning from the very Pentagon itself with Congress as an accomplice.

The Marines say they were following accepted practice in clearing a building after an IED attack. The incident was simply reported by them as an IED attack. That was what it was.


16 posted on 08/16/2006 5:17:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
This isn't an apology, it's a 'CYA' statement.

On the plus side, at least it was not one of those 'I apologize *if* I offended anyone' kind of statements. :)
17 posted on 08/16/2006 5:17:11 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: IrishMike

I think that their statements aided and abetted our enemies in their propaganda campaign. I've no doubt about it.


18 posted on 08/16/2006 5:20:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: OldFriend
It's been from the Pentagon, the CIA, the NSA, State Dept and many other agencies. It's life long bureaucrats who don't like the Bush agenda.
19 posted on 08/16/2006 5:25:02 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

This Congressman from the Arab state of Detroit does not speak for me.

Remember that always following such "apologies" comes a flood of lawsuits seeking damages from the U. S. taxpayer.

Atrocities happen in wartime. Deal with it.


20 posted on 08/16/2006 5:27:00 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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