[wagglebee]

According to an article in the New York Times, a number of scientists have desired to continue medical research on human embryos, but admit that the idea of ready cures from embryonic stem-cell therapies, if possible in the first place, are years down the road.

Yet adult and umbilical cord stem cell breakthroughs are happening TODAY without the murder of innocents.

[wagglebee]

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Embryonic stem cell research has ALWAYS been a tool to protect abortion, it has NEVER been about a cure. If curing diseases through stem cell research was the goal, ALL efforts would be going toward the ALREADY PROVEN research of adult and umbilical cord stem cells.

[SDGOP]

I'm a biomedical engineer and everytime i tell my lib friends this they don't believe me. They think i'm just spewing propoganda and religion.

[DoughtyOne]

California is trying to limit profits from products found through research in it's state run embrionic research fiasco. Manufacturers are balking at participation. Who'd a thunk it?

I live in a state where clowns run the government.

[ArGee]

Surpriiiiiiiiiise, surpriiiiiiiiiiise, surpriiiiiiiiiise!

Scientists must think they've won the fight to get the research funded.

I'm SO glad we can count on science to be unbiased and factual.

Shalom.

[Mike Darancette]

So is their answer more embryos?

[Soul Seeker]

However, this latest admission validates the conviction of many scientists and bioethicists who have opposed embryonic stem-cell research on the grounds of the dearth of evidence proving any practical possibility of obtaining the promised cures from embryonic stem cells. Instead embryonic stem-cell research is seemingly being exposed as a playground for scientists pushing this new front in human experimentation.

Wait. I thought we were simply months away from making people walk and the dead arise. Do you mean to me that isn't true? That President Bush didn't kill people with that VETO? That the people pushing it had another agenda other then saving lives? :gasp:

[DManA]

Arnold has invested how many Ca taxpayer $s in this?

[Jaguarbhzrd]

The government should have no place in embryonic stem cell research.

If it was going to be profitable, the private sector would be able to fund it, as they have been doing with adult stemcells.

Adult and cord stemcells is where the future lies, and therefore the private sector is funding it, because it will be profitable.

[sportutegrl]

Liberals are so gullible, it would be funny if it weren't so sad. Tell them you need the tax money to fund something that Bush or the Christists dissapprove of and they will vote for it, no questions asked.

[VOA]

Scientists Backtrack on Embryonic Research Claims: No Hope for Cures for 5 to 10 Years

That is just about what the interim director of the state program
in California said just before he returned to his job as a professor.

The story was nicely buried within the business section of
The Los Angeles Times.
Of course, all the "cures" that embryonic cloning was to bring were
usually on the front page during the campaign to convince Californians
to pony up $3-$6 BILLION for a the promise of a pain-free eternal life.

[syriacus]

Americans should be thanking Bush for saving a lot of money, that otherwise would have been thrown down into the bottomless pit of ESCR

Of course, the MSM promulgates the lies and half-truths of the pro-ESCR folks, so we hear little about the real successes in non-ESCR. C-Span's reruns are miseducating the public, too.

Regrettably, anyone who saw the C-Span rerun from 2005, which aired last night, would think that Korean scientists made a big breakthrough in cloning, when, in truth, they ripped off the Koreans and only amazed the gullible embryonic stem cell suckers.*

Outdated information about the S. Korean cloning project came out after Leon Kass said that ESCRers would have thought, in the past, that the number of embryonic lines that Bush released for research was fine.

Kass was wondering what number of lines would satisfy the ESCRers.

Then Neil Munro or Erika Check turned to the (faux) success of the Korean research in the course of explaining why ESCRers are suddenly eager to get more and more lines.

Here's the info on the outdated C-Span program

Embryonic Stem Cell Research
C-SPAN, Newsmakers
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 188371 - 08/04/2005 - 1:02 -

On another recently aired C-Span program, the pro-ESCR people seemed to be laughing at those who want to defend the wee humans. They should look in a mirror and laugh at themselves. That unbalanced roundtable had 3 pro-ESCR folks and only one anti-ESCR person.

*If you scratch the surface of an ESCR supporter, you'll usually find a sucker.