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Ancient Welsh city found
News Wales ^ | 14 Aug 2006 | News Wales

Posted on 08/15/2006 7:52:05 AM PDT by Marius3188

Caer Caradoc at Mynydd y Gaer, Glamorgan, is one of the most important locations in all of ancient British history. It is the fabled fortress city of King Caradoc 1, son of Arch, who fought the Romans from 42-51AD.

And now, a small team of dedicated researchers working with historians Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett, have been able to pinpoint the location of this site. "It is great news for the local, regional and national economy," said Alan Wilson today. "We have been making these discoveries for many years and with the Electrum Cross discovered at nearby St. Peter's in 1990, it looks like a boost for jobs is likely."

"What is more," added research team leader Baram A Blackett, "this is but one of several South Wales sites we are currently investigating. And the others are arguably bigger news than this!"

"This is one of many remarkable places", he added.

"What we have is a clearly-defined walled city in exactly the place the records tell us it should be. The Welsh manuscripts and supporting records are always precise and allow us to make major progress in terms of identifying royal burial mounds, tombs, artefacts and more," said Wilson.

Aerial photographs obtained by the research team via Google Earth are available for viewing on the Internet via, realhistoryradio.blogspot.com

A Caer is a fortress and Caers were major fortress cities and towns for example: Caer Lllundain (London), Caerdydd (Cardiff) Caergrant (Cambridge) and Caer Loyw (Gloucester).

Historical references to Caer Caradoc are many and include statements in the Brut Tyssilio (684 AD) and the later Gruffyd ap Arthur (1135 AD) where Merddyn Emrys (Martin Ambrosius) and his mother are said to have met with the Ambassdors of Vortigern at St. Peter's Super-Montem Church at Caer Caradoc, where they lived.

(The ruin of the ancient St. Peters' Super-Montem Church, owned by Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett, is still on the low mountain immediately above the city of Caer Caradoc. The church is similarly ancient, dating to the 1st Century AD as shown in the 1990 dig at the site.)

Another reference is that of Teithfallt/Theodosius, who buried the 363 British noblemen murdered by treacherous Saxons at the notorious "Peace ConfereThe team say the Mynwent y Milwyr, "monument to the soldiers", is still to be found on the second highest point of Mynydd y Gaer above the city of Caer Caradoc that they have found.

A third reference is that of the "Uthyr Pendragon" , King Meurig/Maurice, who lies buried at the giant circle at Caer Caradoc. There is, at this location, a gigantic ditch and mound shaped like a boat, next to St. Peter's Church ruin. In this 180 yards by 70 yards wide earth mound and ditch feature there is the huge grave mound of Meurig.

At the highest point of the Mynydd y Gaer, "Fortress Mountain", lies the burial mound known at "Twyn Caradoc", for King Caradoc 1 who returned from Rome in 59AD.

The area around St. Peter's Church is called Portref, or "Supreme Manor Place", and other place names include "the throne of the knight," "the ridge of the soldiers" and the "pass of the soldier". King Lleirwg (King Luke) rebuilt St Peter's circa 160AD and an archaeological dig undertaken there in 1990 showed four successive ancient church rebuildings dating back to the 1st Century AD. The illustrious Welsh records known as the Triads state that the Caer Caradoc church was the most important in Britain.

Around 150 yards away from St Peter's ruins are the ruins of a thick castle wall and the bases of two gate towers where a castle once stood allowing watchman the best possible views of the coastal views of Glamorgan and the Severn Estuary.

There was a major battle near Caer Caradoc in 51 AD where the Khumric-Welsh claimed victory over the Romans. This battle site was located north west of Mynydd y Gaer near Merthyr (Merthyr Tydfil today), or vale of the Martyrs.

After winning the battle, Caradoc went north to get assistance from the Queen of the Brigantes, Aregwedd, misnamed Cartismandua by the Latins. Instead, the Queen, known as the "traitor", handed Caradoc over to the Romans. He was subsequently taken to Rome where he resided for seven years before returning home.

The team say tthe discovery of Caer Caradoc, a pre-Roman British city is a severe embarrassment to academics who take no notice of Welsh records. Despite this, they now have clear photographic evidence, proof positive, of a rectangular walled city located on the flatlands just city south of St. Peter's and north of Brynna village. Although they are not yet allowed on-site, as it is privately owned, the site can be seen easily.

This city, Caer Caradoc, was once the capital of the Paramount King of Britain, and the team started to look for its precise location in 1990 but it was not until the development of the aerial imaging programme, Google Earth, that they were able to make the identification, and this was a difficult process of checking and re-checking.

There is further conclusive evidence based upon Tithe Maps. These are a detailed record of every Welsh field. Each field had a designated number, details of the owner and tenant farmer and, importantly, the field's name. Every field had a name and often described what had occurred there, if anything. Around St. Peters, the field names show it to be the location of the Peace Conference of 456 took place. "Field of the Conference, "Field of the Quarrel," "Field of the Blood". Copies of Tithe maps are easily obtained.

This is a major find by any standards and we welcome questions, queries and requests for further detail from all comers.


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1 posted on 08/15/2006 7:52:07 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 08/15/2006 7:52:55 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: Marius3188

Amazing how early Christianity took hold on those islands. Kind of ironic when you contemplate this history that the lead church in the Catholic world is in Rome.


3 posted on 08/15/2006 7:58:31 AM PDT by DManA
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Kind of ironic when you contemplate this history that the lead church in the Catholic world is in Rome.

Why is it ironic?

4 posted on 08/15/2006 7:59:45 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: frogjerk

I think he's using the Alanis Morissette definition of ironic - Don't you think?


5 posted on 08/15/2006 8:06:53 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: Marius3188

Cool.


6 posted on 08/15/2006 8:07:18 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Marius3188

"The team say tthe discovery of Caer Caradoc, a pre-Roman British city is a severe embarrassment to academics who take no notice of Welsh records."

Why do academics ignore Welsh records?


7 posted on 08/15/2006 8:09:32 AM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: Rightfootforward
Why do academics ignore Welsh records?

guess they didn't want to be known as a welsher...

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/welsher
8 posted on 08/15/2006 8:14:59 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: Marius3188

TIM:
To the north there lies a cave-- the cave of Caerbannog-- wherein, carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of Olfin Bedwere of Rheged...
[boom]
...make plain the last resting place of the most Holy Grail.
ARTHUR:
Where could we find this cave, O Tim?
TIM:
Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valour, for the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived! Bones of full fifty men lie strewn about its lair. So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth.


9 posted on 08/15/2006 8:16:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: Rightfootforward
Why do academics ignore Welsh records?

Probably the same reason why they ignore biblical records as well. Because, in their mind, "It can't be true."

10 posted on 08/15/2006 8:18:30 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Marius3188; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Marius3188.

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11 posted on 08/15/2006 8:19:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

John Cleese spits like a maniac in that scene!


12 posted on 08/15/2006 8:19:34 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Marius3188

What a strange, partisan sort of article.


13 posted on 08/15/2006 8:23:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SengirV

Is that where the only irony is that she wrote a song called "Ironic" with multiple false examples of irony?


14 posted on 08/15/2006 8:27:53 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Marius3188

This is really an interesting find! I hope that in future we get to hear the further developments. Its exciting! (Especially being a Catholic, as this relates to or touches on the earliest heritage of our Church.)


15 posted on 08/15/2006 8:30:01 AM PDT by VRWCer ("The Bible is the Rock on which this Republic rests." - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: Proverbs 3-5

Actually, "Welsh" comes from an Anglo-Saxon word meaning
"foreigner".

Ironic since the Welsh of the psot-Roman period were the original inhabitants of Britain.


16 posted on 08/15/2006 8:36:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Marius3188

Now if archeologists in Wales could just find all those missing vowels ...


17 posted on 08/15/2006 8:47:06 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: IronJack

LOL!


18 posted on 08/15/2006 8:52:01 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: mysterio

Bingo


19 posted on 08/15/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: Marius3188
And now, a small team of dedicated researchers working with historians Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett, have been able to pinpoint the location of this site. "It is great news for the local, regional and national economy,"

If uncovering a historic site makes a difference to the national economy, Wales must must be at an economic standstill.

20 posted on 08/15/2006 8:57:47 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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