Muslims face extra checks in new travel crackdown

Times (UK) ^ | 8/15/06 | Ben Webster

[gitmogrunt]

People are waking up,......but is the U.S. Government?

IMHO Our Governnment lacks the will to wake up and call a spade , a spade.

[Polyxene]

Your poor father. I can empathize. I am a 5'0" white woman. Both of my knees have been replaced. When I flew a couple of years ago, I set off the alarm and was wanded and patted down, even though I had cards from my doctor proving my surgery. My husband and I are flying on Sept. 1st. Wonder if I will be strip-searched this time? SHEESH!

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

Simple solution, airlines offer flights for those willing to comply with tighter restrictions and those that wish not to participate can fly together.

[massgopguy]

Speaking of profiling. Did you know how the FBI caught all those "students" that disappeared instead of showing up at U. of Montana? They Walked like Egyptians!

[coon2000]

They should be riding on camels not on our infidel airplanes.

[Polyxene]

LOL!! Good one!! Seriously, though, those guys scattered all over the US once they landed. The Feds can say all they want, but they were up to no good, as far as I am concerned.

[Steel Wolf]

I agree. I got angry last week when I was randomly pulled out for body searching.

I don't have anything against random profiling. Two of the 24 terrorists arrested in Britain were Anglo converts, and if we were only targeting Middle Eastern males, they would have walked right by.

That said,

22 of the 24 arrested terrorists in Britain were Pakistani. Almost every single act of terrorism, especially suicide attacks, is committed by a military aged male of Middle Eastern descent.

If we're serious about stopping terrorism, we need to have a strict focused search with a random component as well.

[theBuckwheat]

>>
We must think long and hard about the causal factors of anger and resentment.
<<

Well, we can start by taking note of what the jihadists themselves tell us are the reasons they attack us.

bin Laden gave three reasons for the 9/11 attack:

1) US support if Israel.

2) Western hegemony in media that interfered with the ability of Islam to attract youth;

3) The west and the US kept Islamic nations from achieving their right place as world powers.

Later, of course, he also invited Bush, and by extension the entire US, to convert to Islam. This invitation is in line with the command to deal with the infidels: they must convert, submit or be the subject of war against them.

At the very least, it seems that it is literally true that Islamsist hate the west for just being free. Free people produce entertainment products that offends Islam. (some of it offends me too!) But Islamists deal with it by outlawing it where they can. But what Imam can compete with trendy music? What percent of youth want to listen to another sermon rather than a decent CD?

Free people are also free to develop and invent. Islamists have a love-hate relation with the west. The very Viagra they need to enjoy all their wives was invented in the Great Satan. Their hatred is in part rooted in envy.

Part of the social contract in the west is that people are free to express ideas that the listener may not accept, or may not like, with the provision that everyone is just as free to do the same. Government's role is to protect this freedom.

Islamic culture politicizes every aspect of life, in the sense that religion defines everything. It is it really "politicizes" as much as it "religicizes".

Say something that offends Islam? You are a heretic and every faith follower of this religion has the obligation to protect the body of the faith by killing you, or at least punishing you.

Islam has set itself to correct and punish western culture and people. As such, the higher authority for civil society is now whatever the clerics decides where previously it was the Constitution or other founding documents. It is a revolution in slow motion, a form of treason to overthrow the civil government, and if force is necessary, all the better, given the level of reward enhancement that occurs in this, the "religion of peace".

[brownsfan]

"Muslims may be welcome, but islam is not acceptable. Yes, it's that simple."

Hmmm, one of us is confused. If you were to replace Christian in that statement it would be:

Christians are welcome but Christianity is not acceptable.

You expect people to check their religion at the door? Not likely. Besides, an adult muslim is already tainted with hate from the death cult. I doubt they can assimilate.

[Wurlitzer]

"Mohammetanism is hopelessly flawed, tainted, and pigeon-holed by its own source texts and the pirate and brigand that invented it, Mohammet. A non-Muslim can NEVER trust a Muslim. We can NEVER know for certain when they are telling us the truth. "

Perfect Westbrook. Concise, accurate, and should be included in the header of every post relating to mudslimes.

[brownsfan]

"My question is. Why should we care what they think of us? They want us dead."

Liberals care. They are just oozing feelings.

I don't. I know muslims want me dead, and I return the sentiment. One of the reasons I voted for W is I knew, for a fact, that he would kill more muslims than Kerry. I know that's a pretty disgusting statement, but war is disgusting, and we are at war.

[Suzy Quzy]

YEAH!!! Wish they did it here!!

[stockstrader]

Why in the world do we even ALLOW muslims on airplanes?

Until the muslim clerics, intellectuals, world leaders, etc. get on TV every single day to tell these nut-cases that they will NOT go to heaven (and get their 72 virgins)--but will instead ROT IN HELL--this crap won't stop. Their silence is more than complicity--it is ENCOURAGEMENT!

Again, why in the world do we even let them ON airplanes?

[Canard]

"In England they lump arabs and asians into a single group called asians.

Yeah, not real accurate grouping."

This is not correct. 'Asians' as a designation tends to be used generically for Indians, Pakistani's and Bangladeshis (pretty much the bits we used to own). Arabs would be referred to as Arabs, I don't believe I've ever seen the designation 'Asian' applied to an arab.

"It is funny that muslim arabs don't even consider asian and black muslims are real muslims and there aren't too many black and asian muslims who commit terrorist acts."

All of the people involved in the London bombings last year were of Pakistani-descent, rather than Arab, as were most of the people arrested last week.

[Always Right]

All of the people involved in the London bombings last year were of Pakistani-descent, rather than Arab, as were most of the people arrested last week.

In my mind people Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Syria are Arabs. But that is just me.

[2nd Amendment]

What about the Dell "Jihad" laptops that explode? or the prohibition on eating Krystal hamburgers before embarking?

[6ppc]

I stand corrected. I had some dealings with a muslim of Indian extraction a while back and encountered the term "Asian" to describe him. I didn't think to distinguish between asian and arab muslims, so I stand corrected.

[E Rocc]

The problem with profiling is the smart terrorist groups, which are the most dangerous ones, will pick operatives who do not fit the "profile".

Plenty of Islamofascists aren't Arabs.

-Eric

[derllak]

Unfortunately it won't stop them. It may slow em down a bit, but it won't stop them.