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FBI: No terror groups in cell phone case
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/14/06 | AP

Posted on 08/14/2006 12:16:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

CARO, Mich. - The FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that the three Texas men arrested with about 1,000 cell phones in their van had any direct connection to known terrorist groups.

Authorities had increased patrols on Michigan's 5-mile-long Mackinac Bridge after local prosecutors said investigators believed the men were targeting the span.

Local authorities didn't say what they believed the men intended to do with the phones, most of which were prepaid TracFones, but Caro's police chief noted that cell phones can be untraceable and used as detonators.

The FBI issued a news release Monday saying there is no imminent threat to the bridge linking Michigan's upper and lower peninsulas.

The release also said the FBI had no information indicating that the men, Palestinian-Americans living in Texas, had any direct links to any known terrorist groups or to the alleged plot to bomb trans-Atlantic jetliners that was announced in London last week.

William Kowalski, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Detroit field office, said authorities believe concern about the bridge was connected to images of the Mackinac Bridge found on a digital camera belonging to the men.

Kowalski said there was nothing illegal about buying cell phones in bulk, but that profits from that kind of activity can be suspicious.

Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, of Dallas, and Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, both of Mesquite, Texas, were stopped by police Friday outside a Wal-Mart store in Caro, about 80 miles north of Detroit after employees became suspicious when they purchased about 80 cell phones.

Local prosecutors charged them with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

The men told a magistrate Saturday that they were buying the phones for resale.

Louai Othman's wife, Lina Odeh, told The Associated Press on Saturday that she thought her husband and relatives were targeted because of their Arab descent. She said the men's families come from Jerusalem.

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark E. Reene said Monday that representatives of his office and Caro police had met with Sunday with officials from the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. attorney's office. He said all the agencies were working together on the investigation.

Messages seeking further comment from Reene were not immediately returned.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carocell; cellphone; cellphones; fbi; jihadinamerica; mackinac; nonterroristattack; terrorgroups; tracfones
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To: NormsRevenge
The FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that the three Texas men arrested with about 1,000 cell phones in their van had any direct connection to known terrorist groups.

Stick that in your handy dandy fedspeak translator and the answer comes back "we haven't got a clue." I'm series. We have no information - doesn't mean there isn't information to be had, just they they don't have it - to indicate - how decisive! - had any direct connection - the terrorist wasn't standing next to him - known terrorist - sure they called that number in Pakistan a jillion times but we don't know who was at the other end of the phone, maybe its his mother or something. I guess the feebs would be great coaches for the non-apology-apology too!

Now, if this case goes down as well as the one against the 20th 9/11 jacker, some judge will deny warrants to search these guys' cellphones and computers since they have no direct ties to known terrorists. What's the qualification to become a known terrorist, pop a nuke? /disgust

41 posted on 08/14/2006 1:38:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
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To: KeyLargo

They don't want evey tom,dick or harry out there mucking up
the case. Maybe they want the associates of these guys
to think that no ties were found, so they relax, and go
back to normal operation mode,,and really they are then
being watched....

Strategery.


42 posted on 08/14/2006 1:38:29 PM PDT by Getready (.)
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To: sasha123

Actually, Tracfone sells the cellphones at below cost. As does every other carrier, they subsidize the phones to attarct the airtime. So buying wholesale would not be cheaper.


43 posted on 08/14/2006 1:41:58 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: madison10; BJungNan; Blogger

Didn't know if y'all saw this.


44 posted on 08/14/2006 1:42:15 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: ndt
Could it possibly be that maybe they actually were selling them for parts?

Sell the chargers to whomever.

Sell the cards to their intermediary.

Dismantle the batteries to cook a batch of meth, and sell the meth to finance more phone purchases.

That is looking on the bright side of things: druggie scum, rather than terrorists...but still scum.

45 posted on 08/14/2006 1:53:28 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ndt
Could it possibly be that maybe they actually were selling them for parts?

Okay, lets say they were selling parts. They bought the phones as complete packages in bulk at full retail. They break them up into various parts, i.e., batteries, SIM cards, etc. Then, resell the parts at retail. There is only one thing missing here: profit. You cannot loose money on every sale or break even on every sale and make it up in volume.

Something isn't right here.......

46 posted on 08/14/2006 1:55:51 PM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker
"You cannot loose money on every sale or break even on every sale and make it up in volume."

Well, it wouldn't be the stupidest business plan I've ever seen (I was working during the Internet boom).

If it turns out that these guys are released and there was in fact something shady going on, the blame will fall with Caro PD. Rather than watching these guys and gathering evidence and more importantly connections to others, they jumped the gun and made arrests, blew the lid off the whole thing and now will probably end up releasing them.
47 posted on 08/14/2006 2:10:09 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Thermalseeker
Something isn't right here.......

I agree.
We live in interesting times.
48 posted on 08/14/2006 2:12:53 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: dalereed
As a good friend of mine, an undercover narc sheriff once said, the FBI couldn't follow a menstruating elephant in a snow bank.

How do you know my Brother-In-Law? ;^)

He said the same thing and did the same thing for a number of years.

49 posted on 08/14/2006 2:19:28 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: NormsRevenge
Selling these phones in this way as a business venture is pure BS. When anyone can walk into Wal Mart or any of a dozen other discount stores and buy the same phone for less money why would anyone want to buy one from these clowns? If you were seriously in business wouldn't you have negotiated a deal with the importer? If these guys weren't planning to use these phones for nefarious purposes and thought they could make money selling them with this scheme they are total idiots.
50 posted on 08/14/2006 2:40:00 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: girlangler

Bush appointed Gonzales, bush sets the tone for "lets not scare anyone, and PLEASE don't make the muslims mad".

Not as bad as the dems, but bad enough to be sickening.


51 posted on 08/14/2006 2:51:38 PM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: NormsRevenge

Does anyone actually believe this BULLSH*T?????


52 posted on 08/14/2006 3:06:42 PM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: Idaho Whacko

You have a point about appeasement and political correctness, no shortage of that from the Bush administration.

I think there is probably a lot that isn't being said by the FBI. And I don't believe for a minute that all these "coincidental" events, of muslims buying large numbers of phones, are not connected to terrorism attempts.

The Muslims are all whipped into a frenzy about the events in Lebanon (and hate us for supporting Israel), so I wouldn't be surprised at anything happening.We are in a war, as Bush has said, and it will be a long and difficult task, as he said.

Iran is fannning the flames, and I believe, wants to start a world war.


53 posted on 08/14/2006 3:10:18 PM PDT by girlangler ((Fish fear me))
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To: NormsRevenge

bttt


54 posted on 08/14/2006 3:11:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Idaho Whacko
No comparison with the liberal Whacko's. If the liberals has been in charge we would already surrendered to the terrorists.
55 posted on 08/14/2006 3:19:11 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: sasha123

The person or entity that purchased them was, in addition, paying $5.00 per phone more than he could have bought them for at retail!


56 posted on 08/14/2006 3:21:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: dalereed
A journalist once had a definition for FBI:

Federal Bureau of Incompetence.

57 posted on 08/14/2006 4:48:04 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S. government: Voluntary laws and policies assuring self-destruction)
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To: girlangler
==Iran is fannning the flames, and I believe, wants to start a world war.==

Maybe we'll get our answer on August 22.

58 posted on 08/14/2006 5:11:41 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S. government: Voluntary laws and policies assuring self-destruction)
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL - You're stretching it hard on this ...

What ... Do you think the FBI HAS information of them having INDIRECT contact with UNKNOWN terrorist groups ?


59 posted on 08/14/2006 6:07:07 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Suzy Quzy

"They have 1000- cell phones that they DIS-assembled, where they took out the batteries, and we are supposed to believe it was all on the up-and-up???"

Not impossible ... For example, if you have a small company producing a product that needs a tiny hard-drive, it's cheaper to buy and crack open iPods then to buy a couple of thousand new drives from the manufacturer, IF he will even sell them in small quantities.


But my guess on this would be that someone has figured out how to set these phones up in a closed system, and is packaging them with transmitters for towns and villages in South America or the Pacific Islands.


60 posted on 08/14/2006 6:52:04 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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