Light up or leave

The Daily Telegraph ^ | August 14, 2006 | David Fisher

[Bigh4u2]

I think it's time for smokers to force the local governments to either make allowances for tax paying smokers or ban cigarettes COMPLETELY by making it illegal!

But they won't do that!


These people would throw a fit if smoking was made illegal and all that tax money disappeared.

[SheLion]

Same here. Of course, in Maine, we have about a one-month window of opportunity before it gets too cold ;-)

Oh boy.  Ain't that the truth!

[SheLion]

These people would throw a fit if smoking was made illegal and all that tax money disappeared.

That's why most people are learning the truth!  It's not about health reasons at all.  But the MONEY!!!!

[JamesP81]

Well, that's why most of us have good health insurance.

As do I. Still, it's a criminal offense that they tax us for something we aren't going to benefit from. My taxes would be a third less if I could opt out of social security, and I would if I had the option.

[RandallFlagg]

LOL! This is beautiful!

Every, "Smoking Area," sign I see, I write in pencil:

NO
ANTI-SMOKERS
ALLOWED
(non-smokers are okay)

Looks like someone else caught on.

[Bigh4u2]

And If an owner puts a roof on that patio, it's considered an 'enclosure' and part of the indoors. Hence. NO SMOKING!

[P-40]

When I get sick, my insurance pays for me. No one else. Just me.

If you are getting your insurance through your employer, they are generally footing most of the bill.

[SheLion]

Looks like someone else caught on.

LOL!!!

[SheLion]

And If an owner puts a roof on that patio, it's considered an 'enclosure' and part of the indoors. Hence. NO SMOKING!

OOps...there IS a roof over it. hehe!

[joshhiggins]

t looks like the smoking nazis can not tolerate it that any non smoker might actually choose to go outside to visit with their smoking friend.

I'm sorry I think I misspoke. I meant to say it is the anti smoking Nazis that are trying to prevent nonsmokers from even socializing with a smoker while he /she has a smoke.

Let them try to tell me I can't "second hand smoke" with my friends.

[Bigh4u2]

There is a sports bar here in New York that I've played at with the band and it has a patio. The owner put a kerosine heater on the table, for smokers in the winter, and the town told him that he couldn't have a heater without a permit because the patio was considered an 'enclosure' and also said that there would be no smoking allowed 'inside'.

No doors. No windows. Just a roof with a table.

[Bigh4u2]

"Let them try to tell me I can't "second hand smoke" with my friends."

There ya go. If the 'smoking police' ask, just tell them you are a 'second hand' smoker!

:)

[SheLion]

Let them try to tell me I can't "second hand smoke" with my friends.

Yep.  There you go!

I know I have non-smoking friends and they could care less about the rest of us smoking.  If it bothered them, they wouldn't hang out with us.

[SheLion]

No doors. No windows. Just a roof with a table.

That's really sick and going just a bit too far. 

[Bigh4u2]

See. The problem was, it was attached to the building, and according to the 'smoking police' part of the restaurant.

[SheLion]

See. The problem was, it was attached to the building, and according to the 'smoking police' part of the restaurant.

Just more harassment from the NYC Health Police, IMHO.

[Bigh4u2]

It was actually in Rochester,NY. Upstate, but the same mentality since Rochester is a 'democrat' city.

That's why I don't live there anymore.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

Smokers are not banned though, just smoking inside.

In this case, non-smokers aren't banned, just non-smoking outside.

[P-40]

In this case, non-smokers aren't banned, just non-smoking outside.

It sounds like a case where a business complies with a smoking ban by building a terrace for them to smoke on outside. Smokers and non-smokers alike use it so council decides the business has expanded and wants to tax the additional square footage. Business says it is just a smoking deck but council disagrees so business goes overboard to embarrass the council. If we knew the whole story...that is probably about what we would find.

[MadLibDisease]

"Congratulations to those councils it's about time! The smoker has been discriminated against for years now the shoe is on the other foot."

Amen, maybe they'll learn the nanny state just starts with the smokers but eventually they'll be sticking their nose into EVERYONES business. That's why we have to make a stand now.