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The Lessons of the Father ("The rap on Mitt Romney" ...)
Boston Glob Magazine ^ | 8/13/06 | Neil Swidey

Posted on 08/13/2006 7:11:07 PM PDT by bitt

"The rap on Mitt Romney is that he's scripted,safe, skin-deep.But if you saw your dad endure what his did, you might watch what you say,too.

There, you said it.There's no taking it back. Maybe the regret formed in your mind even before the last syllable of the Godforsaken comment had left your lips. Maybe you thought nothing of it until 12 hours later, when a voice woke you out of your REM rebound, demanding to know,"What in the hell were you thinking?"Either way, it was too late. We've all said something at some point in our lives that we desperately wanted to take back. In 1976,I was a precocious second-grader listening to my mother explain that she was going to a baby shower for a friend. "Wouldn't it be funny," I asked her, delighted to show off my knowledge of a new word I had picked up, "if she had a miscarriage and she had to give back all those baby gifts?" Not funny.All these years later, and I can still recall the look of sadness and disgust frozen on my mother's face.I'm sure she has long since forgotten that comment,but I haven't.

On August 31,1967, George Romney, the voluble,vigorous three-term governor of Michigan and former automotive executive, walked into a Detroit TV station to be interviewed by a local broadcaster with a lousy hairpiece. For more than a year, Romney had been talked about as the Republicans' best chance for winning the White House in 1968. But the national campaign trail, at first welcoming, had become bumpy. Reporters pressed Romney repeatedly to explain his ever-evolving and often confusing position on military involvement in Vietnam, which he had strongly supported after a visit to South Vietnam in 1965 but later declared a tragic mistake. Polls showed his lead fading.

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To: Utopus
just so we can avoid blaming poor Mitt for things that aren't really his fault ....his judicial appointments have to make it by the Governor's Council

Mitt Romney CHOSE radical gay marriage activist homosexual liberal Democrats to submit to the Governor's Council.

How is that not his fault?

What was his thought process there? "Well, most of my judicial nominations will be liberal Democrats, because this is a state of liberal Democrats, and the Governor's Council will be happy with liberal Democrats. But how can I add a little bit of conservative flare to the courts? Hey, I know, I can choose some gay marriage activist liberal Democrats to make the rest of my liberal Democrat selections look conservative by comparison!

41 posted on 08/14/2006 12:28:44 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: Utopus

Mitt Romney: Leadership

As Massachusetts Governor, I was faced with a liberal Governor's Council that wouldn't be happy unless most of my judicial selections were liberal Democrats.

So I gave them what they wanted.

Now I'm in a Republican primary and I'm hearing that you want strong originalist conservative jurists on the Federal bench.

I'm prepared to tell you whatever you want to hear.

Leadership and Honesty


42 posted on 08/14/2006 12:36:00 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: bitt
To sum up then:

* MR managed 2002 Olympics.

* MR is scripter

* Some people like MR's hair

Impressions:

* He is indeed articulate.

* He seems to be a flip-flopper: pro-choice->pro-life

* He appears to make decisions for political gain.

* He is too polished - the "airbrushed guy" from the article.

I am wary of this man but, given a choice between him and Rudy (whom I respect) he would be my guy. Still, is this the best we can do?

43 posted on 08/14/2006 1:05:48 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: All
I call him Mitt "Big Love" Romney. now I suppose I'm stuck with Allen or worse rudy
44 posted on 08/14/2006 2:00:18 AM PDT by graced (some people are just unharvested free-range soylent green)
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To: bitt
I'm looking at Romney seriously. I supposed he took some liberal positions just like Giuliani did because he was ruining in Massachusetts just like Giuliani was running in New York. I was hoping giuliani could at least back track from the open immigration and the Gay marriage issue but so far it does not seem likely. Romney has already back tracked on several of them. I can understand person's here wanting conservative purists but I don't see any of them running who can win. Partly, I blame Bush who has become his father's President a man of no vision who now has not program to push and nothing any more to give to the country. Stagnant waters get toxic and turgid.
45 posted on 08/14/2006 4:02:56 AM PDT by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: JohnnyZ
I agree with you, JohnnyZ, and would add, he COULD HAVE stopped homosexuals pseudo marriage, and didn't. Another FACT. There were several ways he could have, all legal, which is more than I can say for their so called marriage, which still IS NOT legal.
46 posted on 08/14/2006 7:48:18 AM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: JohnnyZ

The popular saying is "you can't beat something with nothing" and YOU HAVE NOTHING. Who is your candidate ? You don't have one. Pence went rino on immigration, tancredo is unelectable, YOU DON'T HAVE A CANDIDATE.


47 posted on 08/14/2006 9:30:03 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: bitt

Romney's a RINO. What's not to love?


48 posted on 08/14/2006 9:31:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: bitt

The rap on Mitt is that he's squishy on abortion. With the fate of the SC in the balance, he gets a thumbs down.


49 posted on 08/14/2006 10:01:47 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: JohnnyZ; bitt

You need to take a look at what Romney knew about these judges at the time he appointed them, because gay marraige didn't become a big, front-page issue until last year. This could be more a case of Romney and his staff not anticipating where the liberal judiciary was going in Mass, rather than appointing known supporters of gay marraige. Mass is a very difficult state for a Republican governor and I'm sure that at this time Romney is constantly working to anticipate the crazy, far-left legislative proposals that are getting thrown at him by the Dems. But he's got some work to do to explain what he knew about these judges when he appointed them.


50 posted on 08/14/2006 10:14:06 AM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)
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To: defenderSD
You need to take a look at what Romney knew about these judges at the time he appointed them

They were KNOWN FOR being pro-gay marriage activists/lobbyists before being appointed.

This could be more a case of Romney and his staff not anticipating where the liberal judiciary was going in Mass, rather than appointing known supporters of gay marraige.

He appointed pro-gay marriage activists/lobbyists who were personally homosexual and by the way were liberal Democrats.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1449896/posts

Romney, despite his opposition to same-sex marriage, in May selected for a district court judgeship Stephen S. Abany, a former board member of the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association who organized the group's opposition to a 1999 bill to outlaw same-sex marriage. Just two days before the nomination, Romney was lamenting the liberal tilt of the state's bench, telling Fox News that ''our courts have a record here in Massachusetts, don't they, of being a little blue and being Kerry-like."

51 posted on 08/14/2006 10:38:32 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: staytrue
YOU HAVE NOTHING. Who is your candidate ? You don't have one.

If you can read my mind to tell that I don't have a candidate, why even ask?

You could just type my posts for me from now on. Eh ... maybe not.

Oh, please remember to take you chill pill every morning, thanks so much.

52 posted on 08/14/2006 10:42:52 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: JohnnyZ

That latest judicial appointment is a strange decision for somebody considering a presidential campaign. Doesn't he know how much that appointment is going to hurt him in conservative states? I'm surpised that he made such a clumsy political move. It would be better to appoint somebody more conservative and then fight it out with the Governor's Council. Romney had better start moving to the right on key social issues or he can forget about winning the GOP primaries.


53 posted on 08/14/2006 11:01:25 AM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)
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To: JohnnyZ
He did appoint activists judges, there is no disputing that. There is also the power of "Executive Order" for use by Governors, no only Presidents. MANY TIMES OVER Romney could have used that power and should have. He didn't. There are many other powers he has as governor, that he has not used. And not only regarding homosexuals and their fake, illegal marriage. But about DSS and their policies, which allow 40% of the children adopted in MA being placed with homosexuals.

Check out where THAT is headed:

http://www.massresistance.org/media/MR_show/
54 posted on 08/14/2006 11:56:50 AM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: defenderSD
Romney had better start moving to the right on key social issues

He's been trying to move to the right. Somewhat. Problem for him is he STILL won't stand up and announce whatever new beliefs he has selected, and his trail of public statements over the past 10 years leaves him wide open to charges of flip flopping. I can't see primary audiences being receptive to that a few short years after John Kerry. They're much more likely to ignore Rudy's social stands and vote for the "hero" (ugh!) than opt for the two-bit windsurfer.

55 posted on 08/14/2006 12:52:47 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: sionnsar

"...the best I can say is that he appears to me to be a Mormon liberal -- that or just a weak politician, not guided by deep principles."

LDS myself, he and Harry Reid have too much in common for me to be comfortable with him as a presidential candidate. I sure hope we get some better choices in the primaries. I guess he'd be better than a Kerry or Gore clone, but not enough better.


56 posted on 08/14/2006 1:38:06 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: JohnnyZ; All

I just post 'em, I am nobody's apologist...

Personally, I like Mitt.


57 posted on 08/14/2006 3:35:56 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Plutarch

Bush went to harvard busuiness school yet they still leveled the charge that he was stupid. Don't forget, both of bush's opponents had worse GPA's than he did. It doesnt' matter who we throw up, there always an idiot. Ever since ike. The only republican who wasn't an idiot was Nixon, but thats b/c the democrats couldn't accuse nixon of being 'tricky dick' and a moron at the same time.


58 posted on 08/14/2006 11:37:24 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: libbylu

Newt and Allen are also anti amnesty, just to let you know.


59 posted on 08/14/2006 11:39:43 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Aquinasfan; JohnnyZ; bitt

Don't forget he was pro gay rights, pro affirmitive action as well, not to mention took shots at the contract with america as well as presidents reagan and bush. Praised bill clinton too.


60 posted on 08/14/2006 11:44:58 PM PDT by SDGOP
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