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What a load of crap.
1 posted on 08/13/2006 2:38:51 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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Oh no, "flirting with nativism" - the horror. Idiot!
2 posted on 08/13/2006 2:43:16 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Doing the jobs Americans won't do? Guess you haven't seen "Dirty Jobs")
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Navarette is a reverse racist.
He always takes the side of the Hispanics, even if they here illegally, are criminals, and carry 13 kinds of uncurable diseases.


3 posted on 08/13/2006 2:43:27 PM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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There is another group to which I belong, and that is that we enforce our laws to stop the very great harm that is being done to the American Taxpayer throough the massive use of social programs by illegals, and which we maust all pay for without any assistance from the country that is exxporting its poverty to us. I have no say in this, even if I vote, becuase there is no one in the enforcement area that is taking this issue seriously.

If we don't have to honor laws that we choose, because the seem so important that we don't, then do I get to pick and choose which laws I get to ignore?

If the border was secure, I think many in my position would welcome additional legal workers if they were allowed to enter in the way all other immigrants in all other generations have come.

The key is keeping things legal and if the law requires legally admitted immigrants to harvest crops, then so be it. But not illegally, so they can smuggle in drugs, a criminal culture, and terrorists along with those who soak up our tax dollars demanding the right to fly the Mexican flag here, while receiving medical treatment free of charge.

They don't want to be Americans, and they don't even like us. They just want our money. That's why its $3.50 for gringos to buy pop in Cancun.


4 posted on 08/13/2006 2:51:43 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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Agreed, it is a load of c#_%! to suggest that this countries citizen's desires for a secure boarder is motivated by racism.

Our native born are the most diverse and accepting of other cultures on the planet, we have accepted with open arms all cultures, we have made laws to protect discrimination, we teach our schools in many languages, as well as government documents.

These anti US sovereignty invasion apologists need only look at their own cultures to find racism and intolerance of immigrants. It's like the old cliché of blaming others for your own faults, the racism charge is officially bogus, they need to get over it...


5 posted on 08/13/2006 2:53:01 PM PDT by seastay
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"The Hutchison-Pence plan forces the anti-amnesty crowd to level finally
with the rest of us about what really bothers them...(snip)...

After all, under it, the immigrants get to be legal, but they also get to stay.


Hmmm...I thought one of the big selling points Pence was pushing was
that all the illegals "would have to leave the country" before re-admittance.

Has Navarette told us that Pence hasn't told us the whole story of
his plan?
Such as "leaving the country" means an "in-and-out" trip to the
local consulate of their home country?
6 posted on 08/13/2006 2:58:22 PM PDT by VOA
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wow. So people who worry about national security and national soveriegnty don't even exist.


7 posted on 08/13/2006 2:59:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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Ping!


9 posted on 08/13/2006 3:00:54 PM PDT by HiJinx (Have you hugged a soldier today? Try it, you'll like it!)
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It's funny how Navarrette never even mentioned the Pence proposal in any of his pieces until it was modified to allow only guest workers from NAFTA and CAFTA countries. After the modification, he suddenly started saying nice things about it.


14 posted on 08/13/2006 3:22:56 PM PDT by ruination
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Navarette: race baiter.


16 posted on 08/13/2006 3:37:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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A lame attempt to turn the age old class warfare argument. Old liberal tricks- old hat, old rabbit.


17 posted on 08/13/2006 3:38:08 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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He's lying about the Pence plan. It has at least one amnesty in it, and probably two or three the way I reckon it.


18 posted on 08/13/2006 3:38:34 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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No barf alert?


19 posted on 08/13/2006 3:38:38 PM PDT by Rosemont
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I am so disgusted by this whole freaking illegal immigration thing I could scream!!! Our newspaper, the AJC, just published the school reports, our cluster USED to be in the top 10, in the past 4 years or so, Gwinnett County has seen the biggest influx of illegals than any other in the state. We didn't even make the top 50. Trailers everywhere eating up playground space, behavior problems left and right. And talk to anyone who teaches and they all say the same thing. They spend more time trying to mainstream these kids than teach to the rest of the class. If all of these pro-illegal writers are so concerned with the poor, why don't they shine a light on the corrupt politicians in these countries that refuse to take care of their own. And ya know what, you're damn skippy I'm a nativist and I am not one bit embarrassed by the name. I am an American citizen, I love this country and I will not sit by and let it turn into a turd world country. The arogance is infuriating. How dare these criminals come into my house and tell me what I'm going to have to do to make their life more comfortable. My sister-in-law is from Germany, she speaks perfect english, and is a trained NURSE, something this country needs way more than landscapers, and it cost a fortune to be here legally. Insanity!!!!!!!


20 posted on 08/13/2006 3:52:38 PM PDT by panthermom
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we need NO IMMIGRATION REFORM. Just enforce the laws already on the books.


23 posted on 08/13/2006 4:23:19 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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Navarrette: I hate the concept of Illegality so much, I can't even type the word!
24 posted on 08/13/2006 4:28:18 PM PDT by MrEdd (More cheep than a flock of baby chickens.)
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After all, under it, the immigrants get to be legal, but they also get to stay.

Which is called AMNESTY, aka, rewarding lawbreakers. Pure crap.

25 posted on 08/13/2006 4:31:00 PM PDT by janetgreen
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Notice that of the three reasons we are against illegal immigration, the fact that it is illegal isn't one of them?


26 posted on 08/13/2006 4:42:16 PM PDT by CT
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The Hutchison-Pence plan forces the anti-amnesty crowd to level finally with the rest of us about what really bothers them. If it is that people are here illegally, or that the border isn't secure, then the plan has that covered.

Changing the rules so you can suddenly make someone go from illegally in the country to legally in the country does not change the fact that they came here by breaking the law (and in most cases continued breaking the law while they were here). It does not magically make them into law abiding citizens and it does not magically change the fact that people who have been following the law have been cheated.

This author clearly believes most of us are stupid.

susie

27 posted on 08/13/2006 4:50:34 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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Yeah, but at least he supports the president...


28 posted on 08/13/2006 5:04:41 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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So in this context a "nativist" is someone who prefers American society to Mexican society? I guess I'm a "nativist" then. But aren't all of the Mexicans who want to move here "nativists" too, then?


29 posted on 08/13/2006 5:09:54 PM PDT by rogue yam
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