What Israel has done for US lately

The Jerusalem Post ^ | 13AUG06 | YOSSI KUPERWASSER

[familyop]

Many pundits in Washington, among them supporters of Israel, anticipated better results from the month-long war against Hizbullah.

They were hoping for Israel to put Iran and Syria on the defensive by using IDF military might to eradicate Hizbullah much faster. Some have already concluded that this was an opportunity squandered.

The truth is that the last month has not been "a walk in the park" for Israel. We have been fighting a ruthless, well-armed and well-trained, albeit small, army that has spent the last six years preparing for this war while we have been busy on many other fronts.

Nevertheless, those in Washington who are disappointed with the results should consider a list of dividends that America has received from our campaign: First and foremost, Israel has sent a loud and clear message that any terrorist entity that carries out an act of aggression will pay a heavy price.

Moreover, we have proven that a "spoiled" Western society, as Hizbullah perceived Israel, can withstand barrages of rocket-fire on its civilians and still maintain an unfaltering resolution to stand up and fight.

Second, by exerting heavy military pressure on Hizbullah and the Lebanese government, we forced the collapse of Nasrallah's strategy that was based on unaccountability and terror-deterrence.

In so doing, we created the necessary conditions to compel the international community to take long-overdue measures to implement earlier UN resolutions that the free world hopes will ultimately turn Lebanon into an accountable, sovereign nation.

If this happens, Syria and Iran would be the main losers of this war. Security Council Resolution 1701 approved Friday is the direct result of that pressure, and now it is up to the international community to ensure that it is implemented.

Third, we helped people across the globe world understand the extent of the threat that Iranian radicalism poses to the entire free world, and why it is so important to prevent it from becoming a nuclear power.

Fourth, we exposed Syria's role in supporting terror - both by facilitating the transport of Iranian weapons to Hizbullah, and by supplying its own heavy, long-range rockets and other weaponry to this terror organization. You might be surprised to know that until this war, the international community had refused to acknowledge that Syria supplied these rockets to Hizbullah.

Fifth, we have shown how irresponsible the Russians were in supplying Syria with state-of-the-art weapons that have ended up in the hands of Hizbullah.

And finally, we helped the world to better understand the dangers posed by Hizbullah's fundamentalist brainwashing machine. In terms of the systematic and deliberate killing of civilians, the difference between Iranian-sponsored Hizbullah and Nazi Germany is that while the SS sought to conceal its deeds - including from German society - Hizbullah proudly proclaims its successes in killing Jewish civilians. This stream of distorted Islamist extremism is cut from the same cloth of twisted ideology to which the planners of the thwarted terror attacks on airliners flying out of London subscribe.

This is a short list of what Israel has achieved in the last month. These significant, concrete advances should go a long way to satisfying those wondering what Israel has done lately for those who live in the land of the free and the home of the brave.

The writer is a brigadier-general and former head of IDF Military Intelligence's research department.

[familyop]

It's difficult to understand the motives/ignorance of those who say or imply that they believed that the job could be done in four weeks. The IDF continues its expanded and intensified mission until Hezbollah stops attacking. Nasrallah said that his terrorist army would continue to fight until Israel leaves Lebanon. Do you get it now?

Essayons

[onyx]

Ping

[familyop]

Ping.

[Dog Gone]

BS.

Israel showed that it didn't have the leadership to do what was needed.

It was a candyass response that Bill Clinton would have authorized.

This article is a prime example of "putting lipstick on a pig".

[zarf]

In spite of the Pat Buchananite whiners, the dirty secret is that the US makes a killing in it's relationship with Israel.

Through the acquisition of intelligence, military and civilian technology tranfers/improvements and military training alone more than make up for the US aid budget to Israel.

It's a steal for the US.

[familyop]

US pressure prompts delay of [Israel's] offensive ("We do not want escalations" - White House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1680983/posts

Israel Asks U.S. to Ship Rockets With Wide Blast-State Department seeks to delay supply
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681771/posts

[MinorityRepublican]

The article brought up an interesting point. In a way, Islamofascists are worse than the Nazis because the terrorists are proud of killing Jews and would kill them in front of everyone to see.

The Nazis weren't quite like that, ordinary German people did not gas the Jews while the typical Muslim might volunteer to do so.

The concentration camps were by large concealed from the German society while Al-Jazeera would have their film crews in place.

[familyop]

American Jews stand by Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678564/posts

What the British Jews think of Israel's war
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678566/posts

[Dog Gone]

I'm confused. Why do I need links to articles I don't care about?

[MCCRon58]

Seems rather foolish to me to expect someone else to fight our wars for us. (Although the euro-weenies expect it as a matter of course, since we fought and won the Cold War for them.)

Just proves my old man was right. "A man who can't shoot his own dog, when its required, don't deserve the dog, and ain't much of a man, either"

[operation clinton cleanup]

In so doing, we created the necessary conditions to compel the international community to take long-overdue measures to implement earlier UN resolutions that the free world hopes will ultimately turn Lebanon into an accountable, sovereign nation.

Wishful thinking. UN resolutions are worth less than Kofi's monogrammed toilet paper.

[Enterprise]

"If this happens, Syria and Iran would be the main losers of this war. Security Council Resolution 1701 approved Friday is the direct result of that pressure, and now it is up to the international community to ensure that it is implemented."

The only answer that is acceptable is to kill every last member of Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon. To hell with SCR 1701. Please understand, PLEASE - that the international community is composed of thieves, murderers, and perverts, and they would rather see Israel die. They don't give a .... about law and civilization.

"Third, we helped people across the globe world understand the extent of the threat that Iranian radicalism poses to the entire free world, and why it is so important to prevent it from becoming a nuclear power."

Look, the people across the globe clearly understand the threat of Iranian radicalism. The United Nations supports it, despite their resolutions. They don't care. And once again, they would rather see Israel destroyed and have its people put in gas chambers. The only hope Israel has, and this is the hope of the United States, is the complete destruction of Hezbollah, and I mean every last one of them killed, by combat operations or summary firing squads. Wake up beloved children of God, wake up and destroy evil. DO NOT TRUST THE UNITED NATIONS!!

[claudiustg]

Many people do not understand warfare. Look how long it took us to achieve rather limited goals in Korea, and at what cost! And again in Viet Nam many blame the politicians, and certainly there is blame to go around. However, our military strategy was incapable of stopping supplies and men from flowing south. To do that we would have had to expand the ground war into Laos, Cambodia and Thailand. It wasn't in the cards.

I think that a quite significant victory against Hizbullah is in the making here. It will not be absolute or final, however. There will not be an end to the overall conflict until the Iranian Islamic Republic is destroyed.

[ROTB]

>We have been fighting a ruthless, well-armed and well-trained, albeit small,
>army ...

... that dresses like and hides amongst civillians.

[familyop]

"BS.
Israel showed that it didn't have the leadership to do what was needed.
It was a candyass response that Bill Clinton would have authorized.
This article is a prime example of 'putting lipstick on a pig'."

"I'm confused. Why do I need links to articles I don't care about?"

Your use of only rhetoric and lack of care about links to facts is obvious. They're for other readers to compare with your comments.

Here's some more background information. Although I've been a Republican voter for a long time, I do disagree on foreign policy with the appeasing "elite" who make the decisions on foreign policy and defense.

Bush and Sharon disagree over Israel's future
Wednesday June 27, 2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,513410,00.html

President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden
June 24, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020624-3.html
"So I challenge Israel to take concrete steps to support the emergence of a viable, credible Palestinian state."
[. . .]
"The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing."

Quartet Joint Statement
Summary
July 16, 2002: Text of a joint statement issued by the "Quartet" (United Nations, Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union) following their meeting in New York
[Document behind the link.]
http://europa-eu-un.org/articles/sk/article_1489_sk.htm
"The new international Task Force on Reform, which is comprised of representatives of the U.S., EU, UN Secretary General, Russia, Japan, Norway, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and which works under the auspices of the Quartet, will strive to develop and implement a comprehensive action plan for reform."

Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003.

Sharon presses Putin to drop UN resolution on road map
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013908/posts
4 November 2003

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

ALTERNATE (includes mention of UN Res. 242: Some of you asked about why our US Government is funding the Palestinian Authority. The reason is that much of the rest of the world wants the "road map" to continue happening, and our Government is appeasing those obsessed nations.

President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden
June 24, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020624-3.html
"The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing."

Quartet Joint Statement
Summary
July 16, 2002: Text of a joint statement issued by the "Quartet" (United Nations, Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union) following their meeting in New York
[Document behind the link.]
http://europa-eu-un.org/articles/sk/article_1489_sk.htm
"The new international Task Force on Reform, which is comprised of representatives of the U.S., EU, UN Secretary General, Russia, Japan, Norway, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and which works under the auspices of the Quartet, will strive to develop and implement a comprehensive action plan for reform."

...little more background material:

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

Bush and Sharon disagree over Israel's future
Wednesday June 27, 2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,513410,00.html

Sharon presses Putin to drop UN resolution on road map
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013908/posts
4 November 2003

In 1967, the leaders of our various nations showed their vanity with UN Security Council Resolution 242. They again ignored the Mandate (binding world agreement on the Jewish Homeland) and demanded that Israel give land to the Arab nations. We can go back further than that, though. The "road map" is really not a new thing, but our leaders will go on saying that it was Israel's idea all along. The canard of blaming Israel in advance for its own destruction by other nations/religions goes back through a couple of thousand years of history.

2004 Republican Party Platform (see "Road Map")

[familyop]

Your comment #13 was a good synopsis and comparison, IMO.

[Just mythoughts]

They did not have to agree to stop fighting in four weeks.

[dennisw]

I call this the Muslim missile war.

1- The Islamics fire rockets and missiles at Israel then hides behind human shields and civilian casualties when Israel attacks them from the air

2- When Israel attacks the Hizb'Allah from the ground the anti tank missiles are deployed and negate the traditional advantage armor gives you. I give Hizb'Allah credit for using anti tank missiles extensively. Not just against tanks. They were used as enhanced RPGs

3- 30 Israeli tanks destroyed or severely disabled PLUS half of all IDF deaths were from hits on tanks

[Dog Gone]

Okay, whatever.

You counter my statement with a bunch of links that are apparently going to counter my statement. You won't or can't do so yourself in your own words.

I don't have time for that nonsense. I'm not going to research your response to me.

[Sam Cree]

I think the Israeli general whom Olmert fired thought the job could be done in far less than 4 weeks. OTOH, the way Olmert's going about it, stop, start, hesitate, go - who knows how long it could take?