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Mosque pleads for calm after being linked to eight suspects
times online ^ | August 13, 2006 | The Sunday Times

Posted on 08/12/2006 6:29:56 PM PDT by Flavius

A mosque in Walthamstow, east London, is emerging as the hub where a number of the terror suspects may have met each other and become friends, writes Abul Taher.

At least eight suspects worshipped at the Masjid-E-Umer mosque regularly, three of whom were well known to those that run it.

Waheed Zaman, 22, lived opposite the mosque on Queens Road, and is believed to have prayed five time a day. Zaman, a final-year biochemistry student at London Metropolitan University, is understood to have become friends there with Ibrahim Savant, 25, a white convert to Islam, and Muhammed Usman Saddeque, 24. All three were known as “good Muslims” to mosque officials.

Savant is believed to have converted to Islam about five years ago.

It is understood that the Hussain brothers, Umair, 25, Nabeel, 22, and Mehran, were all frequent worshippers at the mosque, though they are known to have worshipped at others in the area. They used to sell alcohol-free perfumes outside mosques during prayer times.

All three brothers are believed to be students at universities around London.

A senior Muslim leader said brothers Assan Abdullah Khan, 23, and Waheed Khan, 25, also visited the mosque.

The Umer mosque, which is one of the biggest in the area with a capacity of about 1,300, adheres to the strict Deobandi sect of Sunni Islam, which derives from the Indian subcontinent.

No extremist Muslim groups have infiltrated the mosque but it is believed that local fanatics have distributed leaflets outside during prayer times.

Iqbal Mehtar, a trustee of the mosque, said: “Every mosque has that problem. There is nothing we can do about it.”

The mosque does allow a missionary Islamic group, Tablighi Jamaat, to preach inside. The sect is known for its tendency towards secrecy.

Western security services have in the past accused the global Tablighi movement of being a “conveyor belt” for terrorism.

However, members of the Tablighi Jamaat say they do not advocate any kind of terrorism or violence, and forbid their followers from discussing politics during prayers.

The Umer mosque, which was formerly a synagogue, was reopened after a refurbishment that cost more than £2m three years ago.

This weekend friends of Zaman rallied in support of the arrested men outside the mosque. Mohammed, 24, a fellow student at London Metropolitan University, said: “Wahid used to do a lot of community work on his own. He used to go and force people to get off drugs. He used to preach to them about Islam.”

Another friend of Zaman, who identified himself as Ali, 30, said: “Look, this mosque has had no problems with extremism. It’s just a normal mosque.”

The IT consultant added: “These people they have grabbed cannot be the people they really wanted because if British or US intelligence are saying they are capable of bringing planes down then we are very worried. These are very simple people who would not be able to do this.”

Last week, after Friday prayers, Maulana Shoaib, the imam of the mosque, appealed for calm.

Reading from a statement, he said: “The Masjid urges the Muslim community to remain calm and assist the authorities with the ongoing investigation.

“We urge all to be mindful of the fact that despite what is said in the media people are innocent until proven guilty.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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1 posted on 08/12/2006 6:29:59 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

“Every mosque has that problem. There is nothing we can do about it.”


2 posted on 08/12/2006 6:32:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin

Emphasis on "every mosque"


3 posted on 08/12/2006 6:32:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Flavius
The Umer mosque, which was formerly a synagogue, was reopened after a refurbishment that cost more than £2m three years ago.

UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE!!!

4 posted on 08/12/2006 6:34:07 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: Flavius; Miss Marple
Iqbal Mehtar, a trustee of the mosque, said: “Every mosque has that problem. There is nothing we can do about it.”

Another friend of Zaman, who identified himself as Ali, 30, said: “Look, this mosque has had no problems with extremism. It’s just a normal mosque.”

IMO Two very frightening statements FYI.

5 posted on 08/12/2006 6:35:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Flavius
members of the Tablighi Jamaat say they do not advocate any kind of terrorism or violence, and forbid their followers from discussing politics during prayers.

What about discussing politics AFTER PRAYERS?

6 posted on 08/12/2006 6:36:44 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Flavius

<< if British or US intelligence are saying they [those arrested] are capable of bringing planes down then we are very worried. >>

Can they really be that dense?


7 posted on 08/12/2006 6:37:43 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Flavius

If that is a "normal" mosque heaven help us all. The number of mosques in the US keeps growing. It's what we all suspected goes on inside them.


8 posted on 08/12/2006 6:38:11 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Flavius
“We urge all to be mindful of the fact that despite what is said in the media people are innocent until proven guilty.”

I thought that it was the other way around in England, or at least that there was no presumption of innocence.

9 posted on 08/12/2006 6:39:14 PM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: hoosiermama

Au contraire Iqbal. I propose a simple solution. Padlock EVERY MOSQUE that spawns a terrorist.


10 posted on 08/12/2006 6:39:41 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
It would be outside the bounds of the forum rules to say that this mosque should be quite calmly razed to the ground.

Just pointing that out.

Wouldn't want anyone getting in trouble with the Mods.

L

11 posted on 08/12/2006 6:41:48 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Flavius
Another friend of Zaman, who identified himself as Ali, 30, said: “Look, this mosque has had no problems with extremism. It’s just a normal mosque.”

Ali is perversely correct. It's a normal mosque - normal to him, extreme to us.

12 posted on 08/12/2006 6:42:43 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Flavius
I hope the men and woman or women they caught grow old in jail. Their parents can look to their Madrasa Edu for buying them the tickets to jail for life.
14 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:15 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Merry


I mean seriesly.

The emperor isn't wearing any clothes.



15 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (If I run a Windows app in Linux, what happens when Windows crashes?)
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To: BenLurkin

Raze any mosque that contributes to terrorism. Once a terrorist is there and not turned over to the authorities, that mosque becomes part of the terror group.


16 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:21 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Kill all the lawyers? No, kill all the politicans.)
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To: Flavius
Re: This weekend friends of Zaman rallied in support of the arrested men outside the mosque. Mohammed, 24, a fellow student at London Metropolitan University, said: “Wahid used to do a lot of community work on his own. He used to go and force people to get off drugs. He used to preach to them about Islam.”
The Nation of Islam (black muslims) "force" people to get off drugs, alcohol, pork, preach islam on street corners, and provide community outreach programs also...
17 posted on 08/12/2006 6:47:08 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Lurker
I like the part about these guys being "Good Muslims." I wonder what the bad ones are like and how many more "Good Muslims" attend their mosque.
When you look at what they said then I see we have a new definition of "Good Muslims."
18 posted on 08/12/2006 6:48:24 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Flavius
The Umer mosque, which was formerly a synagogue, CAN I GET AN "OY VEY"!!! Good freaking grief, close a Jewish Synagogue to open A MOSQUE?????
19 posted on 08/12/2006 6:49:06 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: Flavius
“Every mosque has that problem. There is nothing we can do about it.”

Contrary to popular belief, yes, there is a lot that can be done about "it."

20 posted on 08/12/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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