"Imposing Our Beliefs" on Others

CERC ^ | September 2005 | Fr. TADEUSZ PACHOLCZYK, Ph.D.

[Salvation]

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[brytlea]

Actually, all rules/laws impose someone's beliefs on others.
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[Fiddlstix]

Needs to be repeated over and over

[ArGee]

First, the senator failed to recognize the fact that law is fundamentally about imposing somebody's views on somebody else.

Of course, whenever that question is asked, it's asked by somebody who does not agree and does not want the view imposed on themselves. They make it sound like a general principle they are fighting for, but they are really arguing for their own wants and/or needs.

But, of course, it's much more high sounding to phrase the issue in terms of wrongly imposing a viewpoint. Because if you don't do that, then you have to argue in favor of allowing the behavior you want to allow.

Thus it is better and easier to say, "Don't you think goverment should stay out of people's private sexual behavior?" than to say, "Don't I have a right to homosexual sex?"

Shalom.

[ArGee]

Tolerance applies only to persons ... never to truth.

You know the tolerance mantra is on shaky ground when the left is intolerant of the intolerant.

During the entire Anita Bryant thing my father used to ask, "I don't know why someone's right to be homosexual is more sacred than my right to be a bigot."

Of course, my father was not a bigot, but his point was valid.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

Well, it's ok for them, in their beliefs, to impose Sharia Law on your brother, mother, father, sister, rape and kill them in the name of outlaw, oops I mean allah, that's all ok, right?

Are you willing to engage in logical debate on that subject, as this author was willing to do regarding embryonic stem cell research?

A religious position that is not willing to open itself to logical debate is a smoke screen for a feeling.

Shalom.

[syriacus]

There is a big difference between imposing one's religion and presenting one's opinions.

I haven't noticed an increase in the imposing of religious beliefs in the US, though I have noticed a decrease in the tolerance of public expression of religion.

The Islamo-fascists who long for the caliphate, and are willing to pressure men like Steve Centanni to convert to Islam, are imposing their religion on others.

It seems to me, that we folks in the West had better get busy doing things to increase our faith, unless we want to allow Islamo-fascists to "choose" our religion for us.

[narses]

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[little jeremiah]

I like your father.

[ducdriver]

"If people can get the government to authorize embryonic stem cell research, then that helps to promote the idea that an embryo is of no value."

And from there, it's even more sinister. Once it can be generally accepted that an embryo has no human value, it's not a large step to apply the same fuzzy thinking to the other agenda items of the culture of death.

What a great article, about a great priest!

[Convert from ECUSA]

"America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance. It is not. It is suffering from tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos. Our country is not nearly so much overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded... Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil ... a forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment. Tolerance applies only to persons ... never to truth. Tolerance applies to the erring, intolerance to the error ... Architects are as intolerant about sand as foundations for skyscrapers as doctors are intolerant about germs in the laboratory. Tolerance does not apply to truth or principles. About these things we must be intolerant, and for this kind of intolerance, so much needed to rouse us from sentimental gush, I make a plea. Intolerance of this kind is the foundation of all stability. In the face of this broadmindedness, what the world needs is intolerance." - Bishop Fulton Sheen 1931

[Samwise]

Logic, the enemy of the left.

Rule 1 of Liberalism: Facts, logic, and consistency are irrelevant.

[ArGee]

I like your father.

And you wondered what the genesis of BRAAD was?

Shalom.

[Bigg Red]

Thanks for the ping.
God bless Fr. Pacholczyk. We need a lot more priests like him.

[Bigg Red]

Great tagline!

[little jeremiah]

I admit total ignorance about not only the genesis of BRAAD but its existence as well. What is it?

[ArGee]

I admit total ignorance about not only the genesis of BRAAD but its existence as well. What is it?

I thought you were on that ping list - but it was a while ago.

Based on that quote from my father I took a GLAAD press release and re-wrote it. I replaced Gay and Lesbian with Bigot and Redneck and the Bigot and Redneck Alliance Against Defamation was born. As you might guess, there wasn't much more editing that needed to be done, because there is just as much justification for tolerating bigots and rednecks as there is for tolerating gays and lesbians. There is just as much proof that it's genetic. Just as much proof that it is not a mental illness. Just as much proof that bigots and rednecks can't change. And bigots and rednecks are just as picked on by the general population. Can't you just imagine the pain that little Billy Bob feels when everyone else at school is always teasing him? Is it any wonder that bigots and rednecks commit suicide so often?

We had daily posts and some inside jokes ("We're here, we're intolerant, and we'll kick your a$$." Official theme song was "Goober Peas.") and we had fun, but Jim Robinson decided that wasn't what he wanted FR to be about. It's his place so we stopped.

But there are occasional references to it from time to time. I've long since lost the ping list, but I put a few of the charter members in the to box.

Shalom.

[Fiddlstix]

All Hail ArGee! Our Fearless Leader!
Long Live BRAAD!
BRAAD Shall Never Be Forgotten By The Loyal Members!
We're Still BRAAD To The Bone!

Good to see you ArGee J

Check your + FReepmail. I'm sending you the original Ping List J

[ArGee]

Great to see you again too, Fiddlstix. I got the FReepmail.

We're here, we're intolerant, and we'll kick your a$$.

Shalom.

[little jeremiah]

LOL! Thanks for the elucidation. I may be too late for the list, but consider me one in spirit with BRAAD.

I love all souls, it's their behavior and consciousness I don't like.

;-)