Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Imposing Our Beliefs" on Others
CERC ^ | September 2005 | Fr. TADEUSZ PACHOLCZYK, Ph.D.

Posted on 08/11/2006 7:49:14 PM PDT by Coleus

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

1 posted on 08/11/2006 7:49:16 PM PDT by Coleus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 08/11/2006 7:49:40 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
Logic, the enemy of the left.
3 posted on 08/11/2006 7:56:15 PM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Hmmm. Clear and logical. Better to rail against it than read it.


4 posted on 08/11/2006 7:58:54 PM PDT by jwalburg (It wasn't the Executive that Thomas Jefferson referred to as "the Despotic Branch.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
"America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance. It is not. It is suffering from tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos. Our country is not nearly so much overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded...

Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil ... a forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment. Tolerance applies only to persons ... never to truth. Tolerance applies to the erring, intolerance to the error ... Architects are as intolerant about sand as foundations for skyscrapers as doctors are intolerant about germs in the laboratory. Tolerance does not apply to truth or principles. About these things we must be intolerant, and for this kind of intolerance, so much needed to rouse us from sentimental gush, I make a plea. Intolerance of this kind is the foundation of all stability.

In the face of this broadmindedness, what the world needs is intolerance." - Bishop Fulton Sheen 1931


5 posted on 08/11/2006 8:08:17 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jwalburg

Brilliant point about the eagle egg.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 8:15:07 PM PDT by BigBobber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
shouldn't we as elected lawmakers avoid imposing a narrow religious view on the rest of society?

The word is not "impose", the word is "persuade". In a democracy you seek to persuade your fellows of the rightness of your view. Citizens have that right, and if they succeed in convincing their fellows, they can enact their view into law, as long as that view does not violate some prior constitutional protection.

The idea that religious sensibilities ought never to affect our view of the world and the issues we face is silly. There is no "ought" about it, our religious and philosophical sensibilities always affect our world view. That our sensibilities differ is the reason we do political battle before imposing any law on ourselves.

That this senator wants impose a change in the law without considering the views of the citizens is not surprising. He shouldn't imagine we should go along with it without pushing back.

7 posted on 08/11/2006 8:25:57 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: murphE

Wonderful quote by Bishop Sheen. 1931, and timeless.


8 posted on 08/11/2006 9:00:01 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

No one should have to impose not murdering babies on decent human beings. Of course, we are no longer dealing with such people are we?


9 posted on 08/11/2006 9:01:35 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

The priest is arguing logically. That is appropriate in a science discussion. Sensibilities is to vague for me. but I think this whole push for embryonic stem cell research funding must be a boondoggle or pork, as there is no rational reason to do it at all.


10 posted on 08/11/2006 9:08:14 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ClaireSolt

There is a very rational reason that some people are pushing for embryonic stem cell research, even though adult stem cell research has been producing all of the results so far. If people can get the government to authorize embryonic stem cell research, then that helps to promote the idea that an embryo is of no value. It's the abortion crowd that is pushing the killing of embryos.


11 posted on 08/11/2006 9:34:51 PM PDT by DeweyCA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Every law that is passed imposes a value system. The Libs want to impose their godless worldview which is entirely different than what the Founding Fathers ever envisioned. We have to out-vote them. It's as simple as that. There are only some basic rights in the Bill of Rights that cannot be imposed upon us.


12 posted on 08/11/2006 9:37:33 PM PDT by DeweyCA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

He used my analogy!
From my email sig:

Human Life. Human Ethics
Crack the egg of a bird on the Endangered Species list and you'll find that it doesn't matter that the bird embryo or fetus can't survive outside the egg. You've still broken the Endangered Species Act.


13 posted on 08/11/2006 9:40:59 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeweyCA
There are only some basic rights in the Bill of Rights that cannot be imposed upon us.

Rights are imposed upon us?
.
14 posted on 08/11/2006 9:44:42 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Well, it's ok for them, in their beliefs, to impose Sharia Law on your brother, mother, father, sister, rape and kill them in the name of outlaw, oops I mean allah, that's all ok, right?


15 posted on 08/11/2006 9:46:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

That was a great article! Thanks for posting it.


16 posted on 08/11/2006 10:00:41 PM PDT by ofwaihhbtn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
shouldn't we as elected lawmakers avoid imposing a narrow religious view on the rest of society?"

What a stupid question when all of our views are decided by our religion. I mean just look at the stats, anyone attending church on a regular basis are 90% pro-life and all heathens are for killing babies, so you see, religion does play a part on our views.
17 posted on 08/11/2006 11:15:38 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
This reminds me of Margarette Thatcher's speech ("Reason and Religion: The Moral Foundations of Freedom")

"The unparalleled horror of the Nazi holocaust shows most clearly what happens when perverted science is allowed to overflow moral and ethical banks. If man is simply the measure of all things then justice is whatever a majority of men at any given moment says it is, or whatever a "dictator of principles" may impose by force. Without a standard of justice external to human reason there will be no necessary restraint on what men may legitimately do. The only law will be "that of the tooth and the claw."

"The great moderating influence in Western civilization has been the Judeo-Christian tradition. The idea of an omnipotent God who not only judges but may mete out punishment in the next life for transgressions in this one bolsters man's rational impulse toward civil society and obedience to the positive law. That one might commit crimes in this world and elude punishment by the civil authorities, but still have to face one's Maker in the next, tends to focus one's attention.

"The broader importance of our religious tradition is that it reinforces man's sense of responsibility to his neighbour, of trusteeship towards the next generation, and of respect towards society's institutions and achievements. Religion teaches us that there is something higher than mankind, and therefore a need to restrain oneself in accordance with those higher standards. As Tocqueville described it, the power of religion in a democratic republic means that "the human mind is never left to wander over a boundless field; and whatever may be its pretensions, it is checked from time to time by barriers that it cannot surmount." Certainly a world that lived by the moral guidance of the Ten Commandments would be a better place. And to an extraordinary degree, those dictates of divine law have informed and defined the Anglo-American constitutional and legal tradition. As Edmund Burke put it, "There is but one law for all, namely, that law which governs all law - the law of our Creator, the law of humanity, justice, equity, the law of nature and of nations."

18 posted on 08/11/2006 11:31:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: murphE

That's a great quote. I'm always fascinated by how little human nature changes over time, even thousands of years.


19 posted on 08/11/2006 11:48:30 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

I was just about to post this. Excellent article.


20 posted on 08/29/2006 6:03:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson