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Olmert cannot remain in the prime minister's office ("Bibi, Bibi...")
Haaretz.com ^ | 8/8/2006 | Ari Shavit

Posted on 08/11/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Dark Skies

Ehud Olmert may decide to accept the French proposal for a cease-fire and unconditional surrender to Hezbollah. That is his privilege. Olmert is a prime minister whom journalists invented, journalists protected, and whose rule journalists preserved. Now the journalists are saying run away. That's legitimate. Unwise, but legitimate.

However, one thing should be clear: If Olmert runs away now from the war he initiated, he will not be able to remain prime minister for even one more day. Chutzpah has its limits. You cannot lead an entire nation to war promising victory, produce humiliating defeat and remain in power. You cannot bury 120 Israelis in cemeteries, keep a million Israelis in shelters for a month, wear down deterrent power, bring the next war very close, and then say - oops, I made a mistake. That was not the intention. Pass me a cigar, please.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar
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To: Dark Skies
"They don't have a choice. Win or die."
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Then why not fight to win!

They are fighting an enemy that disappears into the civilian population. They don't want to kill everybody and they can't conclusively identify who the enemy is. The only option I think they have is take land, expel all the residents and make the land a part of Israel. Then declare to the world, if you attack us we will fight back, conquer your land and expel you too! They don't have the courage to do this, so they will lose.
21 posted on 08/11/2006 3:16:53 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Dark Skies

Pity that this man is not doing everything possible to eliminate Hezbollah threat to his homeland.

22 posted on 08/11/2006 3:17:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: LtKerst

As long as Hezbollah keeps their goal of killing Jews it does indeed meet the definition of defend.


23 posted on 08/11/2006 3:17:51 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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To: wmfights
Be patient. Desperate men do desperate things. The Hezzies aren't desperate...Israel is.
24 posted on 08/11/2006 3:19:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

And while they are doing all of this, Iran and Syria will be busy resupplying Hezbollah. Geez, what are they thinking!!!! They are going to use the exact same forces that allowed Hezbollah to tunnel and put thousands of rockets on the border. and Israel is agreeing to this... The Arab world will definitely look at this as a victory for Hezbollah. Israel won nothing. I guess the President is a political creature after all and not a man of principle. He wants Republicans to win in the Fall and he thinks he needs to say they were behind Middle East peace.


25 posted on 08/11/2006 3:22:34 PM PDT by Merry
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To: bybybill; shield

If Olmert is dumped we will get Peres or Livni.

If you all want to write Olmert or Bibi


eulmert@knesset.gov.il

bnetanyahu@knesset.gov.il


26 posted on 08/11/2006 3:22:57 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: wmfights
The Israelis being a bunch of left wing socialists don't have the will to win.

That is nonsense. Israelis talk one way and work another. It is confusing, but it is true. Most of Israel's economy comes, not from kibbutzes, but from a fairly healthy capitalist economy. Even in social services Israel gets away with what looks like a far-left system, but the intensive religious networks and the care given within them actually allows the government to slip by most of the costs we associate with it.

Being a conservative and a Jew, I have never, never, figured out how my co-religionists, with all sincerity, do one thing and believe another. It is an enormous blind spot which I have never figured out.

I once wrote on FR that any Jew who believes in a strong central government has a learning disability. And, I am sorry to say, most of us do.

I work in academe. Nowadays, Jews who support Judaism or Israel are not very popular. We are treated to all the little anti-Semitic nonsense that you would expect from, say, the 1940's. But we continue to support these mega-Universities in which those who hate us receive their pay. I can't figure it out.

But not fight. H*ll, yes we will.

McVey

27 posted on 08/11/2006 3:23:04 PM PDT by mcvey (Fight on. Do not give up. Ally with those you must. Defeat those you can. And fight on whatever.)
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To: shield
Oh bull...it's not totally his decision...there's a whole group of other Israeli Officials that have to give the approval...that's obviously what's been done.....

No bull...The officials have been contacted and have already approved of the surrender...Sunday's meeting is just a technicality...

28 posted on 08/11/2006 3:23:36 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Dark Skies

Makes sense. It's an interesting article; I just couldn't help myself.


29 posted on 08/11/2006 3:24:29 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: Dark Skies
So let's review the events of the last day: Olmert starts pulling out troops before any agreement, thereby displaying fatal weakness. Then he decides that he doesn't like the impending agreement/resolution, and orders an outright assault. Then, hours later (and before the assault), he changes his mind and announces a pull out.

Un. Freaking. Believable.

Oh, and just a minor point - there are more than 100 dead Israelis, thousands wounded, literally hundreds of thousands in shelters or evacuated out of the north, the economy of the north in ruins...and Israel's soldiers are still held hostage, and Hezbollah still has weapons and position, and the IDF's reputation as a far superior and ruthless force in the Mideast is GONE - not in tatters, FREAKING GONE!

This guy makes Carter look like Teddy Roosevelt. He's such a complete putz that he should probably be brought up on charges of treason and imprisoned or shot. I am anguished over this while sitting comfortably and safely some 7,000 miles away - I cannot imagine how uncontrollably incensed I'd be if I lived there and had lost a family member.

And the Erev Rav SOB still talks about giving territory to the Pallies, of uprooting Jews from land and homes that are legally and morally theirs - in the name of making more square miles Judenfrei. The world is turned upside down - or, rather, has reverted to 1938. Now, after all of these years of wondering how people felt back then, I finally have some sense of it - and the feeling is one of dread, of wondering if our civilization will survive at all, or in a form that we'd recognize and be comfortable with.

Look for MUCH, MUCH more terrorism, and look for a big war in the Mideast in the not-terribly-distant future. I mourn for Israel, and I mourn for the US. We are in a world of schit, and this poor excuse for a man and leader is largely to blame...as are Peres and Sharon and Bush/Rice.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE - Israelis MUST turn this traitor and his accomplices out of office. Once the immediate shooting stops, the streets must be filled - shut the country down until Olmert leaves in disgrace. Have new elections, put into place an Israeli Churchill to prepare for the coming war (and to possibly avert it - if that's even possible now).

30 posted on 08/11/2006 3:24:34 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: bluecollarman

I used to call Bibi in late 80s early 90s the Israeli amb to CNN he was on it so much.


31 posted on 08/11/2006 3:25:59 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Dark Skies
"Desperate men do desperate things. The Hezzies aren't desperate...Israel is."
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They don't act like it.

They have a huge tactical advantage in material, but they are losing because they are fighting too nicely. They can blow up bridges, buildings and roads but that will not destroy the terrorists will to fight, or their support among the citizens. The only way to stop the terrorists is to get the civilians to look upon them as the enemy. Putting a bunch of "blue helmets" on the ground won't stop the terrorists, but it will keep the IDF from rolling in the next time. Then the status of the terrorists will be raised and further gains politically will be made by them.
32 posted on 08/11/2006 3:26:53 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Perdogg
If Olmert is dumped we will get Peres or Livni.

Not if a no confidence motion passes - then there are new elections, and those two creatures are almost as much to blame as Foolmert.

33 posted on 08/11/2006 3:27:26 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: All
This is NOT over.
34 posted on 08/11/2006 3:28:28 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: mcvey
But not fight. H*ll, yes we will.

Damned right - we're not hopping into cattle cars and walking into gas chambers again. We just need to get rid of the modern day Judenrat, to untie the hands of those who have faith in G-d and in the righteousness of Israel's cause.

35 posted on 08/11/2006 3:29:30 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Dark Skies

Amen!


36 posted on 08/11/2006 3:30:31 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: xjcsa

lol...no prob.


37 posted on 08/11/2006 3:30:51 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Pukin Dog
This is NOT over.

Let's hope and pray that you're right. If not, then this is the biggest surrender since Munich, and it will have similar consequences for the world and the Jews.

38 posted on 08/11/2006 3:31:50 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Dark Skies

Colonel Hunt just said on FOX:

"WHO WILL SIGN THE AGREEMENT FOR HEZBOLLAH?"

Apparently Lahoud will sign on behalf of the hezbos.

This looks like a big win for the hezbos.

Look for big time celebration in Lebanon all over the news.

The hezbos will now have plenty of time to re-arm for their next big attack.

Omert needs to go now.


39 posted on 08/11/2006 3:33:01 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: LtKerst

Looks like he will sign on behalf of the hezbos:

His Excellency President Lahoud


40 posted on 08/11/2006 3:35:31 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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