The Israelis have figured it out, because they live with it every minute of every day.
We can too.
Posted on 08/11/2006 12:14:28 PM PDT by freepatriot32
Isn't it ironic that one of the things our enemies, the Islamofascists, hate about America is the very thing that enables them to operate here?
I'm talking about our openness. Our rights to privacy. The many freedoms granted us by the U.S. Constitution. And the protections and even special treatment afforded Muslim organizations in the U.S.
We're a society like no other.
Take for example last week's decision by Federal District Court Judge James Whittemore of Florida, who ruled in favor of ACLU lawyers last week that pat down searches before football games should be prohibited because they violate fans' Fourth Amendment rights. There is "no substantial, real risk," he opined, of terrorists killing people at football stadiums.
I guess he didn't hear about the University of Oklahoma student who tried to enter Sooner Stadium last fall after wiring himself to the gills with explosives. But most Americans didn't, so what's new?
The suit, originating with a Tampa civics teacher who'd obviously rather see Raymond James Stadium blown to smithereens than subject himself to a five second pat-down, could prompt many venues and the NFL to re-evaluate security policies, a seeming victory for jihadists and ACLU fans everywhere.
Meanwhile, in the Meadowlands in New Jersey, a special area has been set aside where Muslim fans can pray during a game. This came in response to allegations of profiling after some startled Giants fans last September grew alarmed when five Muslim men were observed getting up in the middle of the first quarter, congregating in a sensitive area near the stadium's main food prep area and air intake duct, spreading prayer rugs and doing their thing. The men were outraged at being questioned.
Thankfully, the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority is making sure they'll pray in comfort this season. Who wants to be accused of profiling, especially since there's no threat to stadiums and we're not at war with Muslims (just certain Muslims who we can't identify until they decide to hijack a plane or shoot up a Jewish Federation building).
If I'm sounding a little frustrated, it's because so many Americans seem to be stuck on moot points regarding those who want to attack us. Instead of focusing on immediate concerns, while world events truly leave them and their arguments behind, they're stuck on WMD and Guantanamo detainees.
These deniers rarely have solutions to any threat, and can't see this conflict for what it really is. Hint: It's not Vietnam.
I wish they'd put the mullahs under a microscope, for once, and discuss their vow to activate terror cells here, or the "apocalyptic surprise" they claim to have in store for America on August 22.
It's been five years since the Islamofascists won their last battle on American soil, and most of us still aren't at war.
Maybe the deniers think all we need is a little football, and the enemy will simply go away.
lbarmstrong3378@comcast.net
Only a few morons did that, and that was 8 years ago. I agree, it's tough dealing with some of the dopes,and we have our share, but please don't lump us all in with them!!! We're just desperate for a freakin championship of some sort!
Maybe we shouldn't be afraid, but we shouldn't give the Muzzies carte blanche to hit tempting targets, either.
Too late, I'm a Cowboy fan! Consider yourself lumped! LOL!
And how will you tell that someone is a Muslim terrorist?
By asking him? By his looks?
Think he's going to tell you the truth? Muslims come from all around the world and pretty much look like America. And a lot of Europeans look like people from Northern Africa. I do hope you aren't pinning your hopes on some tamperproof ID.
As long as people are going to go around trying to kill other people searches for the use of public facilities are reasonable. So is surveillance. The question is whether the government can use the results to prosecute. Israel has security everywhere. Is it not a free society?
Ugh. Can't wait for the return of T.O.....they WILL need metal detectors at the Linc!
anyone have any link to the Oklahoma State middle eastern student who blew himself up while on the way to a football game ?
from widipedia
Explosive device
In a press conference university president David Boren said that Hinrichs used explosives strapped to his body. [4] Initially, it appeared that the device was made from hydrogen peroxide. [5] Later it was revealed that it was actually composed of triacetone triperoxide (TATP), a derivative of various household products including hydrogen peroxide. TATP is an extremely unstable compound, and will sometimes detonate spontaneously.
There were also reports of a second device being found and a controlled detonation taking place at approximately 9:00 p.m..[6] It was likely a backpack or bag.
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Responsible party
In a press conference on October 2, 2005, university President David L. Boren identified Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering student at OU, as responsible for the bombing.
Hinrichs was originally from Colorado Springs, Colorado, a National Merit Scholar who graduated from Wasson High School in May 2002[7]. His father, Joel Hinrichs Jr., described him as a "very private individual" who had gone through "several severe bouts of depression". Joel's depression was noted as early as ten years old. His father believes that the "underlying cause was his inability to bond with other people. He couldn't make friendships." He said that Joel had a hard time relating with others and that he "was very sensitive and defensive in interacting with others, to the point he didn't even know his own roommate. He went on to say that Hinrichs had been undergoing counseling at Goddard Health Center, which is located on campus.[8] Even after the event was announced that the incident was simply the act of a troubled youth ending his life, others assessed the situation differently. Mark Tapscott of the Heritage Foundation remarked, "There are about 30,000 suicides in America, unfortunately, every year. And you can go back a decade, and you will not find a single one of those suicides who blew themselves up in proximity, close proximity, to 84,000 people at a football game." [9]
Hinrichs was a member of Triangle Fraternity. Hinrichs' father said that Joel had "recently moved out of the fraternity house because "he didn't bond, didn't relate well to the other fraternity members." In the chapter meeting following the bombing the members of his fraternity were asked to direct all questions and comments to one member of their fraternity and not to discuss anything with the media, this was advised in hopes of limiting rumors and other theories. [10]
According to local media, Hinrichs had even bigger plans originally, as he had tried to buy ammonium nitrate at a local feed store, Ellison Feed & Seed, according to its owner.[11] Ammonium nitrate was used in the Oklahoma city bombing in 1995. It was later revealed that a Norman off-duty police officer overheard the conversation between the feedstore owner and Hinrichs. The officer followed Hinrichs out of the store and checked Hinrichs' licence plate. The officer then started an investigation when his shift started. That investigation was still in progress when the bomb went off.[12]
Hinrichs had a Pakistani student roommate and there are rumors that Hinrichs was an Islamic convert and attended the Norman mosque where Zacharias Moussaoui had previously attended [13]. (However Ashraf Hussein, the president of the Muslim Student Association at OU, has denied that Hinrichs attended mosque in Norman.[14]) The mosque in question is near the apartment in which Hinrichs lived before his suicide. There have also been claims that investigators found Islamic jihad material in Hinrichs' apartment. The local congressman, Tom Cole (R-OK), said he asked the FBI about the jihadist material and was told that absolutely none was found.
There are also reports that Hinrichs tried to enter the stadium and was denied entry after refusing to be searched. Hinrichs was not a student season ticket holder. Cole indicated that the FBI told him "We may never know" if Hinrichs really did have plans to enter the stadium. The FBI had no evidence either way. Cole also said that the FBI told him that Hinrichs' family and friends claim that Hinrichs has long been fascinated with bombs and ammunition. [15]
Mr. Hinrichs left a suicide note on his computer that was found when investigators entered his apartment. The suicide note said, "None of you are worth living with. You can all kiss my ass."[16]
In July 2006, the FBI formally declared that there was no evidence that Mr. Hinrichs was a terrorist. [16]
...seems to me we've heard this name before.
expect more bad rulings from this guy.
expect more bad rulings from this guy.
At least one great American tradition is somewhat preserved by that decision.
We should be celebrating our freedom, not cowering like a a bunch of soccer moms at a shooting match.
The terrorists are laughing because they've prevented us from boarding our own airplanes with our own toiletries (I think they hate toiletries).
"F" 'em, and "F" all the people in the mood to just keep modifiying aspects of our national lifestyle, thinking it will make a difference.
I've had it.
"There is "no substantial, real risk," he (judge James Whittemore) opined, of terrorists killing people at football stadiums."
How on earth does a judge this stupid get on the bench??!!?!! Football stadiums are prime targets. 50,000 to a 100,000 people sitting close together in open space. My God! Maybe a lobotomy will increase the judge's IQ!
What, you're worried about a little pat-down to make sure no one has a bomb that could kill a 100,000 people? They've been doing this at rock concerts for years, while looking for glass bottles. A glass bottle can only hurt a few people. A bomb or bio/chemical agent could kill everyone in a stadium. You don't think the terrorists are salivating at the idea of killing all football fans at a game? Football would be the ultimate sport for them to pull this off. It's America's game, now.
It's definitely time for profiling! F@#% the ACLU! Searching grandmothers or every tenth person at train stations is ridiculous! We all know who these people are and what they look like. They'd only have to search about 1-2% of the people and the lines could move faster.
I am sick of these judges, and I am ready to start speaking out. Letter writing, phone calls etc. Enough is enough. They have replaced the constitution in this country, making laws and defying the federal government and the will of the people. This is just plain wrong, and we have got to put a stop to it!
I'm not worried about it at all; I'm just not going to do it, and I wish the rest of you would stop worrying about it and surrendering to these a-holes.
The only way all this crap is going to stop is if we just buck up and carry on.
We surrender something every day, and I'm tired of it.
Fear emboldens politicians to implement controls on US, NOT terrorists.
The Israelis have figured it out, because they live with it every minute of every day.
We can too.
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