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SECOND THOUGHTS ON "PEACEFUL" ISLAM -- Time To Face Up To The Islamist Reality!
http://www.iconoclast.ca/newPage6.asp ^ | D. Gartman

Posted on 08/11/2006 7:36:42 AM PDT by Apolitical

In light of yesterday's thwarted attacks, we thought his sermon is worthy of note this morning. He "preached:"

We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world -- except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. [Ed. Note: Emphasis ours].................

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carnage; crushislam; hatred; immorality; islam; islamicfascists; islamicnazis; islamisevil; islamofascism; islamonaziism; myth; peace; slaughter
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Peaceful Islam, my foot!
1 posted on 08/11/2006 7:36:43 AM PDT by Apolitical
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To: Apolitical; P-Marlowe

It is time for someone to note that these were British citizens who happened to be islamic and of Pakistani (?) descent.

They were willing to kill their countrymen. They had regard only for their religion taught in the culture of their modern state.

And they were willing to murder their countrymen.

It is ISLAM that is sick. Islam is no peaceful religion. These British citizens were willing to murder their fellow Brits because of their sick religion.


2 posted on 08/11/2006 7:42:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Apolitical



Bravely Spoken (when behind a stroller!!!)
3 posted on 08/11/2006 7:48:57 AM PDT by NoFoxholeAthiests (Religion-of-Peices)
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To: xzins
It is ISLAM that is sick. Islam is no peaceful religion.

Indeed, it is not a religion. It is something else...but certainly not a religion.

4 posted on 08/11/2006 7:50:07 AM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Salvey
"Indeed, it is not a religion. It is something else...but certainly not a religion."

Death Cult seems apropos.

5 posted on 08/11/2006 7:59:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascists' tactics are all War Crimes according to the Geneva Convention.)
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To: Salvey

Well yes, it is a religion as it fits Webster's definition of a religion, but that's beside the point. Islam has NEVER been a "religion of peace". I just can't understand why many in this nation are so brain dead. This is what happens when people don't pay attention to history or at the very least start learning after the fact and play "catch up" and "catch on". There's no excuse to remain ignorant. But then again, I've never seen so many willing to see their own country slide into chaos, defeat and eventually some form of Marxism after all the fruits they enjoy. If it ever happens, they will rue that day.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 8:02:53 AM PDT by brushcop (Lt. Harris, SFC Salie, CPL Long, SPC Hornbeck, B-Co, 2/69 3ID We will remember you always.)
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To: Apolitical; Stand W; backhoe; Hannah Senesh; bikepacker67; FreedomPoster; starbase; ...

The historical Muhammad was in fact an ambitious terrorist, criminal and murderer - whose entire life was based on victimizing innocents and indulging in mindless violence, carnage and massacre. He was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went; and in its place brought terror, rapings, unmerciful butcheries, carnage and death - all the while invoking God's holy name to sanction his evil deeds.

The Crusades were a reaction to the Muslim crusades against the entire world The Crusades probably allowed the western world a thousand years of freedom from the diabolical Islamic religion because the Crusaders stopped the expansion of the Islamic empire. This allowed Christianity to prosper in Europe which preserved the gospel for the rest of the world to receive.
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In the 7th century, the Muslims took control of Jerusalem, and in the 11th century they began to hassle, kill, molest Christian pilgrims in the Jerusalem area. The Crusades were also in response to the cries of help from the eastern Byzantine Empire, which was very worried about the military threat to it from the Seljuk Turks. So if the Christians did not respond, the Muslims would have conquered all of Europe and wiped out Christianity from the planet.


7 posted on 08/11/2006 8:09:47 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated)
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To: Salvey

Islam is a false religion, perpetrated by men of evil hearts. Its spread is by the sword. They believe [falsely] that Ishmael is the child of God's promise, when, in fact, Ishmael was the son the Flesh (man's doing). They claim to believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ and acknowledge that He was a great prophet, when, in fact, Jesus never claimed to be a prophet, but, rather, He claimed to be the Son of God. If Jesus is who He claims to be, and His teachings are true, what need is there of any other? Yet, in their darkness, they've concocted a story about the "prophet" Mohammed. Since they have made the truths told throughout the Scriptures into a lie, their entire belief system is founded on lies.

It is only an unbelieving world (or an unwilling to see world) that can, in any way, give credence to this despicable belief system and call it the "religion of peace." In fact, it is quite obvious from everything that they say and do that their hearts, turned so decidely toward hatred of others, are in desperate need of the way, the truth and the life.


8 posted on 08/11/2006 8:10:19 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Apolitical

A new photo from Reuters and AP. Looks bad for Israel. END SARCASM!

9 posted on 08/11/2006 8:13:28 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Salvey

Islam is the most open-ended and wide-ranging death threat ever uttered.


10 posted on 08/11/2006 8:17:12 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The worst thing about censorship is XXXXXXXXXXXXX)
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To: MarDav

Although people raised in Islam are taught to follow it without question, Islamic historian Muhammad Ibn Al-Rawandi’s conclusion is that it simply isn’t possible for an intelligent, educated Westerner to convert to such a religion without committing “mental suicide.”


11 posted on 08/11/2006 8:21:45 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated)
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To: Apolitical

* "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)
* "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) until they pay the Jizya [tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued." (Surah 9:29)
* "Those who follow Muhammad are merciless for the unbelievers but kind to each other." (Qur'an 48:29)
* "Enmity and hatred will reign between us until ye believe in Allah alone." (Qur'an 60:4)
* Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily God doth see all that they do. (Qur'an 8:37-39)
* And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. (Qur'an 2:193)
* "Fight the unbelievers in your surroundings, and let them find harshness in you." (Qur'an 9:123)
* "For he who believes in the Trinity, "the Fire will be his abode … a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemer." Qur'an (5:72-73)


12 posted on 08/11/2006 8:27:48 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Lady Jag

Christ said, "By their fruit you will know them." He was expecting His followers to practice Godliness (God-likeness/Christ-likeness) as a means of drawing others to the Father. There is nothing in Islam's current practice (or its practitioners) that would so draw a person. This being the case, the Islamist brandishes the sword and sighs, "Oh, well..."

"Peace I leave with you. My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." - John 14:27


13 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:50 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Apolitical

There are no peaceful Muslims.
The muslim religion is 100% pure evil.


14 posted on 08/11/2006 9:00:58 AM PDT by MeekMom (Obey the Lord Jesus, the benefits are great!)
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To: MarDav
Muslim's and any others considering Islam should take care to note that the Allah they are praying to, has not one attribute of love. This should be a another sign to you that who you bow down to in Islam is really not whom the imams, mullahs and ayatollah's say he is. Look through the Qur'an - there is no attribute of unconditional love accorded Allah to his Muslims--but once. Ironically, in Sura 20:390 Allah does unconditionally say he loves one man - the Hebrew Moses.

Another "red flag" is that there is not one place in either the Muslim Qur'an or even in the much later made up Hadith's that teaches Muslims to have a loving relationship with Allah. This Allah is to only be feared by Muslims. Will all Muslims go to Hell? According to Sura 19:71 every Muslim will go to Hell (for at least some time), while another passage states that those who die in Jihad will go to Paradise immediately.

15 posted on 08/11/2006 9:40:48 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated)
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To: Lady Jag

Islam is spread with the Sword.

Christianity is spread with love and compassion.

Sometimes "love and compassion" has to pick up the sword to defend against the sword (of Islam). Charles Martel, Richard the Lionhearted, and others understood this.


16 posted on 08/11/2006 9:52:12 AM PDT by NoFoxholeAthiests (Religion-of-Peices)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Just because we can only trace Islam back 1400 years doesn't mean that Islam vs. Christianity isn't the age old struggle between God and satan.


17 posted on 08/11/2006 10:15:24 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated)
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To: conservativecorner

You owe me a keyboard. LOL!


18 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:41 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
Islam is spread with the Sword.
Christianity is spread with love and compassion.

That wasn't always the case, but sadly the global Left refuses to acknowledge the change.

19 posted on 08/11/2006 10:44:50 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

I feel the need to state that true christianity is spread ONLY by the Spirit of God. All the other stuff you see in the guise of "christianity" does, as you seem to imply, have a troubling history.


20 posted on 08/11/2006 10:52:21 AM PDT by MarDav
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