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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Love is a Battlefield

IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; unres1701; waronmilitantislam
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Diplomats seek to end Mideast conflict

By PAUL BURKHARDT, Associated Press Writer

UNITED NATIONS - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other senior diplomats scrambled Friday to wrap up a U.N. Security Council resolution aimed at ending the monthlong conflict between Israel and Hezbollah, amid hopes that they could adopt a text by the end of the day.

Britain's Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said France had agreed to a new revised draft resolution, but it would need the approval of Israel and Lebanon to go forward.

With a deal just hours away, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert decided to launch an expanded ground offensive in southern Lebanon, after expressing dissatisfaction over an emerging cease-fire deal, government officials said.

Yet even after the Israeli announcement, Rice said diplomacy continued.

"We're working for a vote today. We're working for a vote today," she said as she entered the Security Council.

It was not immediately clear whether Israel was trying to pressure the Security Council, or whether Israel is really determined to send troops deeper into Lebanon.

Israeli government officials said their opposition was connected to a compromise by the U.S. and France to accommodate Lebanese concerns surrounding a U.N. force already in Lebanon that would help coordinate the withdrawal of Israeli troops from the south.

Lebanon had objected to a U.S. and French proposal giving the U.N. force, known by its acronym UNIFIL, a new mandate under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter. A Chapter 7 mandate would give the force new, more robust rules of engagement, including the right to use force.

Lebanon's concerns led the U.S. and France to come up with new language that would strengthen UNIFIL without giving it a Chapter 7 mandate. Yet Israel still fears that the U.N. force will be too weak to keep Hezbollah from rebuilding its forces in south Lebanon, which the militia has controlled for years.

Two other unresolved issues are how to time the withdrawal of Israeli troops from south Lebanon with the arrival of 15,000 troops Lebanon has promised to send there; and what to do with the Chebaa Farms area along the Syria-Lebanon-Israel border, which has been occupied by Israel since the 1967 Mideast War.

Earlier this week, Israel's Security Cabinet had approved a wider ground offensive until Lebanon's Litani River, some 18 miles north of the border. The decision had been suspended for a few days to allow diplomatic efforts to play themselves out.

Before the Israeli announcement, diplomats expressed optimism about a deal and a clear intention wrap up the resolution by the end of the day.

"We are very, very close to an agreement and our aspiration is to have a vote by the end of the afternoon today," U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said after yet another round of negotiations with France.

The latest draft appears to eliminate the prospect of a new, independent multinational force that would patrol a buffer zone between Israel and Lebanon, opting instead to bolster the existing U.N. force in Lebanon, known as UNIFIL, and to make it more powerful. Israel also objects to that idea.

A senior U.S. official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the U.S. and France envision a 10-day timeframe between the moment a halt to the hostilities is declared and the moment UNIFIL troops go into action in the south.

Increasingly impatient that diplomacy has taken so long, Russia introduced its own resolution Thursday calling for a blanket 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire in Lebanon. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin sounded an alarm that the humanitarian crisis in Lebanon was reaching "catastrophic" proportions and said it was too urgent for diplomacy to go on much longer.

The Russian resolution also urged "extraordinary diplomatic efforts" for a deal on the U.S.-French draft. Churkin said he hoped his proposal would give them a renewed sense of urgency.

"War is raging in Lebanon and the humanitarian situation is getting catastrophic," Churkin said. "We hope it will focus minds, it will energize politicians and diplomats."

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan also expressed frustration that a deal has remained elusive.

"I think we've had enough discussions," he said. "The issues have been discussed all around and it is time for decision, and I hope the council will take firm action today."

More than 800 people have died in the monthlong conflict, hundreds of Lebanese civilians and dozens of Israelis.

The United States is chiefly concerned that Hezbollah not be allowed to re-infiltrate south Lebanon once a cessation of hostilities goes into effect. Washington has supported Israel's insistence on staying in southern Lebanon until a robust international force is deployed, which could take weeks or months.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060811/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_mideast_fighting


821 posted on 08/11/2006 10:39:17 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Txsleuth

LOL


822 posted on 08/11/2006 10:40:11 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: AliVeritas

The peaceniks are crying:


Beilin: Wider operation is prize to Hizbullah





Meretz leader Yossi Beilin said Friday that the government's decision to widen the ground operation against Hizbullah in southern Lebanon amounts to giving a "prize" to the Shiite group.


"If the widening of the ground operation to the Litani is carried out, the results will be long weeks of a war of attrition," Beilin said. (Attila Somfalvi)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3289826,00.html

(08.11.06, 20:08)


824 posted on 08/11/2006 10:40:22 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

And now reuters wants to pull our strings:

20:39 U.K. Foreign Secretary: Key Security Council members reach deal on cease-fire (Reuters)
20:38 Israel says will halt ground offensive if satisfied with UN resolution (Reuters)


826 posted on 08/11/2006 10:40:59 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SE Mom

Dear Mom,

Condi KNOWS.

s/txr


827 posted on 08/11/2006 10:41:07 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: SE Mom

Shep said the Syrian's were removing mines shortly before the last "offensive' halted.

Look for additional confirmation, or else reports of ditch bridging, ditch filling, forward movement of earth moving or bridging equipment, dispersion of fuel/ammuntion stockpiles, forward movement of artillery or AD assets.


828 posted on 08/11/2006 10:41:27 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Lizarde

ok..something about a french truce now..happened in the past few minutes


829 posted on 08/11/2006 10:41:41 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: AliVeritas

Yes indeedy, I heard that! Fidel isn't too fiesty these days it seems. And Raul.....has dropped off the face of the planet it seems, LOL!


830 posted on 08/11/2006 10:42:30 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel. We're all Jews now.)
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To: janetjanet998

will be presneted at 3pm


831 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:13 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

French said yesterday that they had a plan they would offer if the joint plan fell through...


832 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:20 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: txrangerette

:) Of course she does...but it just makes me nuts!

NOW we hear the FRENCH are going to introduce a truce proposition this afternoon at 3 PM. HAHAHAHA!


833 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:25 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: Lizarde

No one among us likes it, I wager. The ones who are in charge aren't dumb and must have reasons. That's all.


834 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:27 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: janetjanet998
what did shep just say that the syrians are removing mines off the border?

I have no idea, I do not have access to a television at the present. Only FR and the magnificent Internet.

835 posted on 08/11/2006 10:43:37 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Dutchgirl

Good afternoon. I just turned on Viidoo, and Fox is gone from the line-up!!!


836 posted on 08/11/2006 10:44:09 AM PDT by nuclady
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To: goldstategop

We have to get you in the UN.


837 posted on 08/11/2006 10:45:00 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: SE Mom

Oh, we'll all hold our breath until the French present their (surrender) "peace" proposal.

NOT.


838 posted on 08/11/2006 10:45:33 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: SE Mom
Hey IDF... special request:


839 posted on 08/11/2006 10:45:53 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: janetjanet998

If Israel turns their decision making on war over to the French....oh my goodness!

How can the Lebanese govt. negotiate anything having to do with Hez?? Hez is running things. Lebanon is OWNED by these terrorists.


840 posted on 08/11/2006 10:47:27 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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