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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Love is a Battlefield

IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; unres1701; waronmilitantislam
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To: TexKat
BEIRUT (AP) - Israeli air strikes on Friday pounded south Beirut and border crossings to Syria, killing at least 14 people across Lebanon as ground fighting picked up intensity in the south.

South Beirut has been hit many times already. It's conceivable there might be a few low value targets remaining there, but nothing of significance.

We used to call this "bouncing the rubble" when I was in the Air Force. It's "sound and fury, signifying nothing".

Historians looking back on what looks like the last day of Israel's first lost war may consider it symbolic. Israeli war planes capable of bombing anywhere they please, unopposed, are ordered to bounce the rubble instead.

Prometheus in chains.

381 posted on 08/11/2006 7:49:00 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: jhp

What I suspect is this: Israel doesn't want the cost both in $$ and in other ways of sustaining an occupation in Lebanon. The UN deal is them trying to get the international community foot the bill of getting them a safe zone.

That's what this war has been about from Israel's pov, especially with the parties in power, a way to get a cushion of safety for the north. If they succeed it will not be considered a loss...at worst, a draw.

I really don't think the peace parties in Israel have learned very much from this experience, though. What lessons the people on the street learn will take time to see.


382 posted on 08/11/2006 7:51:27 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: EternalHope

You are wrong calling it a loss. It is not the victory YOU wanted. I know it's not the victory that Likud and the IDF wanted. It may be very much the victory Olmert wanted - Hezbollah hurt, other people there to be the buffer. If it ends today, it will go down not as a loss, but most likely as one of those never ending conflicts with an indeterminate outcome.


383 posted on 08/11/2006 7:55:24 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SE Mom

The State Dept..huh??

Boy, they sure know how to screw up a war...


384 posted on 08/11/2006 7:55:57 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Late to the party. Did Israel stop the pull out after the boat attack?


385 posted on 08/11/2006 7:56:58 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: EternalHope

I thought it curious when I heard Israel was ordering cluster bombs - they would not for the type of war against Hezebola which is dug in. More for usage against large ground formations of infantry that Hezebola would not do.


386 posted on 08/11/2006 7:57:46 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Knitting A Conundrum


Updates
45 people injured in Friday rocket attacks
(17:54 , 08.11.06)
EU calls aviation security meeting after foiled terror plot
(17:51 , 08.11.06)
Rocket barrages fall in Kiryat Shmona, Safed
(17:50 , 08.11.06)


387 posted on 08/11/2006 7:57:52 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: All
Info on the Israeli boat:

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/naval/super_dvora2/SuperDvora2.html

High-Speed Patrol and Attack Craft

388 posted on 08/11/2006 7:58:15 AM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: janetjanet998

I hear the French troops are providing the escargots and white flags...


389 posted on 08/11/2006 7:58:17 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: redgolum

Don't know yet...talky, talky, talky behind closed doors.


390 posted on 08/11/2006 7:58:34 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: TexKat
Justice Minister Haim Ramon defended the government, telling Israel Radio: "War in the name of the war is not an objective."

Tzachi Hanegbi, a senior member of Olmert's Kadima party, said that, if it was possible to remove Hizbollah from southern Lebanon through diplomacy, "obviously this is far preferable to a military clash with its heavy price in lives of fighters."

Where have these guys been since 1948??? You can't deal with hizbollah 'diplomatically'! Heaven't they learned anything???? I hope Israel's voters wake up and stop electing these peace at all cost cowards, they live in too rough a neighborhood to afford the luxury of pacifistic politicians. They need hawks! Where's the new Begin and Dayan and Sharon?

America needs to pay attention to this debacle that's about to unfold...this is what will happen to us when we're attacked next and we've got a Speaker Pelosi conferring with President Hillary about what we're going to ask the UN to do about it!

391 posted on 08/11/2006 7:59:36 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Txsleuth

Once upon a time when I was in college, I dreamed of working for State. I'm glad I didn't go that route...


392 posted on 08/11/2006 7:59:44 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Txsleuth

Unbelievable isn't it?

It may well be these were ordered just in case Iran/Syria decide to get involved. But- that's just speculation..


393 posted on 08/11/2006 8:03:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: jhp

Yep... you're a psychic.

Oh, what about the soldiers?
Hezzies disarming?
Iran, Syria being held accountable for their actions?

Bolton should've flown those Iranian guard bodies over and identifying missle fragments and dumped them right in the middle of the Security Council... and bring Nicky Robinson and Tweety (Anderson) with him to tell what's going on. With some Hezbowood direction footage. Think it would make a difference? /s


394 posted on 08/11/2006 8:03:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I saw a segment on Nasrallah on Wednesday..can't tell you what station...that said that he got his "FAME" by "running the Israelis out of Lebanon" in 2000.

Therefore, he HAS to win this war, or lose his position of power...and you know that in that culture, "saving face" is a hugh deal..and so, no resolution will be accepted that doesn't at least LOOK like Hezbollah, under Nasrallah's leadership has WON this war...

Just FYI..Nasrallah HAS to be hailed as running out the Jews yet again.


395 posted on 08/11/2006 8:05:09 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: SE Mom
Amazingly enough, rooters had a photographer on the scene. I guess we have to believe they sank the ship. Pictures don't lie.

Fake But Accurate

396 posted on 08/11/2006 8:05:21 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: redgolum

Did they! God I hope they don't pull out.


397 posted on 08/11/2006 8:06:03 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: Colorado Doug

HAAAAAAHAHAaaaa! Well done!

But in the meantime..no confirmation of this anywhere..


398 posted on 08/11/2006 8:07:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I just cannot understand a whole department of US government that works so hard to screw it's own country.


399 posted on 08/11/2006 8:07:38 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Colorado Doug

LOLOL! That's a good one. You had me for half a second until......."Hey, I recognize those plumes of smoke!"


400 posted on 08/11/2006 8:08:09 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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