Posted on 08/10/2006 4:27:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
I feel for you. Next Saturday I have to fly into Dulles in Washington DC, then on to Frankfurt and then Kiev.
And I can't even bring a freakin' bottle of water for my 9+ hour flight across the Atlantic! Not to mention toothpaste so I can brush my choppers before I meet my wife in Kiev.
Muslims suck.
I disagree. In 1998, OBL issued a Declaration of War against all Americans everywhere, and called on Muslims all over the world to kill as many Americans as possible.
Anything short of our death does not give them what they want.
Ben Franklin correctly said "those who would sacrifice liberty in order to gain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety".
I'm a fan of Ben Franklin, and in fact he and I even share the same birthday. But I think here he was wrong. It implies that maximum liberty is had with zero security, and that is clearly not the case.
I was going to do a one day trip to the coast on Saturday, but with all the BS, it takes about 2 hours off the amount of time I have on the ground, And I don't want to stay overnight.
The joys of flying standby....
The guy who flies the plane, should he want to crash it, will not be doing so with a tube of toothpaste.
Drug smugglers use condoms and similar containers.
The way I read the new policies, get used to the idea of the mangy dog look. I've been on a few of those long overseas flights, and the one common event is the line for the toilets, with everybody holding a dop kit or makeup kit in their hands, as the flight is nearing the destination.
Profile who? According to the news two of the suspects were British citizens who were recent conversions to Islam. So how do you propose to pick the two Muslim white guys out of a whole airplane full of white guys through profiling? Make everyone eat a pork chop before boarding?
>I would love to get a GMC Conversion Van. Something that's roomy but not too big.<
Go for it. Big vans are sitting on dealer lots right now. I looked at one (just tire kicking) and the salesman was doing everything he could to get us to take it off his hands.
Before you buy the GMC, though, look at these new Dodge Sprinters. They have tons of carrying capacity and they're diesel, so they last longer and get better mileage.
So the result of this latest attempted terrorist atrocity is that we can't bring toothpaste and deodorant with us onto the plane, thus ensuring that we all smell like muslime savages.
Yeah... there aren't any on my Christmas gift giving list either...
Good luck...
Our government would rather destroy the airline industry and put us all at more risk than be politically incorrect.
So we just let the majority slip thru as well and do nothing?
what do you propose?
What we're doing. Plots like this are not going to be prevented at the airport gate. They are going to be prevented through good solid police work and cooperation between countries where the terrorists operate, leading to arrests long before the terrorists get near a plane. Not by some $10 per hour TSA Rent-a-cop.
And when 'they' do succeed, I shall remember your comment. Thanks
Well just out of curiosity what would you do? Who would you profile? Would you keep every Arab-looking person off the plane? What defines Arab-looking? What about Asians? The largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. Think that keeping all Asians and Arab-looking guys off will do it? How about also banning every person with a British passport since the main source of terrorists seem to be from England these days? You think that would work? You tell me who to profile and what the percent chance you give it of succeeding. And why you think that will work better than what I suggested.
Terrorists exploit weakness. The weakness of profiling only dark-skinned men is that white men get through. And white women.
Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, is a white man. If the TSA focuses only on brown men, then the terrorist recruiters have everybody else as a potential pool of candidates.
I hear the same argument from others here. fine, just let the bulk go thru and we all will have to accept the consequences be it attacks or economicimpact or social upheaval.
side note, As long as we allow madrassas and mosques and universities to act as feeder/breeder factories, you may well be right, eventually profiling will yield little results, 'til then, to discount it as one of the tools to be used seems only to invite more attacks , not lessen the danger.
I have a sneaking feeling profiling is used , just not advertised as such. Thanks for bumping up the thread.
How about answering the question. You want to profile? Fine. Profile who?
from past history and including a majoirty of known perps to date.
young middle eastern males, for starters.
so you don't catch the new converts of other ethnic origin, you will likely be having a major impact regardless and hopeflly slowing or slighting the effort of the more readily persuaded to buy into the martyr angle.
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