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Passengers can expect double screening (Sticking it to everyone equally in the name of security)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/10/06 | Leslie Miller - ap

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:27:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Beginning Friday, airline passengers will go through double screening to make sure they're not carrying liquids onto planes, the head of the airline industry's largest trade group said.

Passengers and their carry-on luggage will be checked not only at the main security checkpoint, but also a second time at the boarding gate. The stepped-up screening in response to a new terrorist threat began Thursday at 25 airports where planes leave for Britain.

"It's going to spread across the whole system tomorrow," James May, president of the Air Transport Association, said Thursday.

The response to the terrorist threat produced long lines at airports Thursday as security officials scrambled to put new measures in place and passengers faced perplexing new restrictions — including the ban on carrying liquids onto aircraft.

Intelligence had indicated the terror plot unfolding in Britain involved using benign liquids that could be mixed inside an airplane cabin to make an explosive.

While plots to blow up airliners using liquid explosives are nothing new — such an attempt was foiled more than a decade ago — the government has been slow to upgrade its security equipment at airport checkpoints so that it can detect explosives on passengers.

Transportation Security Administration chief Kip Hawley said the need to tighten security came as a surprise and the changes were difficult to implement.

"It normally takes us about four weeks to roll out a change at a security checkpoint, and this one came about in a little bit more than four hours in the middle of last night," Hawley said.

Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, said the government was overreacting. "They paralyzed the system with the hassle factor again," Woerth said.

During the first few hours of the alert, the TSA was taking toiletries away from flight crews, he said. "Then they said, 'This is stupid. We're taking toothpaste away from the guy who's going to fly the plane.' It didn't take them long to back down."

But Frank Cilluffo, director of the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University, said it makes sense to insert "uncertainty and randomness into the system so we can't let the adversary game the system."

Still, he said, coordination among agencies and the industry remains a problem.

Denis Breslin, spokesman for the American Airlines pilots union, faulted nagging communication shortcomings among intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security agencies.

"There's a whole lot of people making rules up right now, and until they get it all sorted out, every passenger is going to have to go through the nightmarish procedures that they're putting together right now," said Breslin.

David Mackett, a pilot who heads the Airline Pilots Security Alliance, said flight crews are treated as part of the problem.

"We're not happy that every time there's a threat we find out from the media, and that there's almost a complete vacuum of information when it comes to the air crews," Mackett said.

It was after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that box cutters and other sharp objects were banned, bulletproof cockpit doors installed and air marshals rushed into service.

And it was after Richard Reid, the confessed shoe bomber, tried to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight in December 2001 that security officials made passengers remove their shoes. Lighters were later banned from passenger cabins.

Members of Congress have for several years criticized the TSA for using 1970s-era X-ray technology to screen carry-on bags at security checkpoints.

Rafi Ron, former head of security at Israel's Ben Gurion Airport and now a security consultant in Washington, said part of the problem is that terrorists always try to exploit new vulnerabilities.

"Weapons and explosives are various and you can expect new types of weapons as well as tactics," Ron said.

Douglas Laird, an aviation security expert and former security chief for Northwest Airlines, said the plot described Thursday resembled a 1994-1995 attempt, codenamed "Bojinka," to blow up a dozen airliners simultaneously over the Pacific Ocean using liquid explosives smuggled onto planes in bottles of contact lens solution.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; bojinka; dhs; double; expect; passengers; redalert; screening; tsa
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To: FreedomCalls

Man, that picture is a classic example of government stupidity. If they could recruit fellas like that to be suicide bombers in sufficient numbers to pull off the kind of operation they were thought to have planned, they can have the country as far as I'm concerned.


81 posted on 08/10/2006 6:50:50 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Darnright

How do you get that thing to London? :-)


82 posted on 08/10/2006 6:54:21 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: kaktuskid

Tonight on Entertainment Tonight, they did a story on airport security now and how the stars are going to have to deal with it. I forget who they pointed out, but they said that she and her family was "wisked through the line and taken to a protected area". Just goes to show that some are more equal than others. When it comes to this situation, the "stars" ar no more equal then you, me, and the first grade math teacher. That report just turned my stomach.


83 posted on 08/10/2006 6:57:44 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: rebel_yell2
How do you get that thing to London? :-)

--

45-foot Terra Wind

Take lots of dramamine.

84 posted on 08/10/2006 7:02:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: george76
In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 90 Americans were held for 444 days by

(E) - Jimmy Carter for allowing it to happen.

85 posted on 08/10/2006 7:03:48 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: dawn53

Thanks Dawn. No personal hygiene products. So much for the romantic weekend.


86 posted on 08/10/2006 7:12:06 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I am preety sure that 70% peroxide will not do the greatest thing to human body cavities. The bottom line is this: explosives are so volatile that to contain it in the human body would be darn near impossible as the individual components would kill the organism prior to coming together in critical portions.


87 posted on 08/10/2006 7:19:34 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: savedbygrace
Financially, it costs less to drive, without considering the travel hassles.

Nothing beats a good old road trip. I'm sick of these new airline rules too. It's fricking ridiculous.

Airlines suck bowel movements anyway.

88 posted on 08/10/2006 7:21:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: gas_dr

what do they care..they're only gonna live for a few hours anyway..


89 posted on 08/10/2006 7:21:37 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Darnright
Here's a way to get around all this uproar about flying.

I would love to get a GMC Conversion Van. Something that's roomy but not too big.

90 posted on 08/10/2006 7:22:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: NormsRevenge
Still NO ethnic profiling. More political correctness. I guess all those stories with certain Middle Eastern surnames in the news haven't taught the clueless Feds anything - again!

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

91 posted on 08/10/2006 7:22:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

Our pathetic government isn't up to the war against Islam. They wring their hands over offending terrorists who plot 24/7 to devise the most efficient ways to kill Jews and Westerners, and they make octogenarians from Iowa give up their Listerine at the outrageous airport security checkpoints. This is unbelievable.


92 posted on 08/10/2006 7:26:06 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: My2Cents

They were showing women throwing out make-up and cologne on the news. That could get expensive. Better to just buy the stuff when you get where you're going or go "au naturale." Of course, you can put the stuff in your checked luggage, it's only carryon that's restricted.


93 posted on 08/10/2006 7:31:42 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: NormsRevenge
Looks to me like profiling would have nailed 96% of the terrorists. If we were able to concentrate more resources on the 96%, we could catch them quicker and they would lead us to the white converts anyway.
94 posted on 08/10/2006 7:40:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I was on a flight about a year ago when I opened a bottle of the relatively new Liquid Bandage product. The flight attendants went bonkers because it smelled just like nail polish removal liquid. At the time I had a bunch of irritating small cuts on my fingers.


95 posted on 08/10/2006 7:58:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: NormsRevenge

I am not going to live my life in fear and stop flying. Their is million times more chance of me dying from eating fast food then these bunch of pathetic losers dying for non-existant virgins in paradise.


96 posted on 08/10/2006 9:01:59 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Two-Bits

"My daughter came up with a great idea. No one can board a plane until they eat a slice of bacon. Once eaten they can board."

Hey that's great! How about a simple pork rind?


97 posted on 08/10/2006 9:03:23 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Beginning Friday, airline passengers will go through double screening to make sure they're not carrying liquids onto planes

I'm staying home.

F-this


98 posted on 08/10/2006 9:04:09 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like this guy's screwed.

99 posted on 08/10/2006 9:05:02 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: savedbygrace

Just asking. We're anticipating flight of a minimum of 12 to 18 hours, including layovers and sleeping on airport benches. Will they get this sorted or will I have to do without toothbrush and toothpaste, personal cleansing items and makeup so that I don't arrive looking like a mangy dog?


100 posted on 08/10/2006 9:17:12 PM PDT by ArmyTeach
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