Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.
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We're on the same wavelength again!
"Whoa! Suddenly the timing on the arrests makes sense. Close one."
Yea, I thought I heard while ago that they had been given the green light to go.
(Is the Israeli response in Lebanon justified?)
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.palestinianforum.net/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D73226&prev=/language_tools
Don't look at the results unless you got a strong stomach
Call them two weeks in advance...
The commentary is starting to trickle out...We will see...two against, one for...
Several echo posts LOL!!!!
I hope Scotland Yard and MI-5 indicate what islamic websites the caught bombers frequented.
Some folks on here make ya really feel stupid but they couldn't hit broadside of a barn from 30 yds.... :-)
Being vewy vewy quiet.....
Invite him over here. :)
A month into war in Lebanon, survey of Israelis finds mood has not dropped; 90 percent still say war is justified, two-thirds support continued fighting
Tali Zinn
That depends. Have the Israelis begun to wake up?
Olmert vacillates yet again, delaying offensive with "diplomatic" excuse
By Israel Insider staff and partners August 10, 2006
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has put plans for a new ground offensive in Lebanon on hold until the weekend to give a chance to cease-fire efforts, senior government officials said Thursday, a day after Israel's Security Cabinet approved a major expansion of the monthlong war.
However, prospects for a quick cease-fire resolution by the U.N. Security Council are uncertain, with the United States and France still divided over a timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon. France wants Israel to pull out once hostilities end, while the United States backs Israel's insistence on staying in southern Lebanon until a strong international force is deployed, which could take weeks or months.
Olmert is ready to wait with the offensive until the weekend, said a senior government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the issue with reporters. The offensive could begin earlier if Hezbollah launches a major attack on Israel, the official said.
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah threatened new rocket barrages, urging Arab residents of Israel's port city of Haifa in a televised speech Wednesday evening to leave their homes for safer areas.
Cabinet minister Rafi Eitan confirmed the govenment's decision to wait. "There are diplomatic considerations," he told Israel Radio, when asked about a planned delay. "There is still a chance that an international force will arrive in the area. We have no interest in being in south Lebanon. We have an interest in peace on our borders."
On Wednesday, Israel's Security Cabinet approved the deeper push into Lebanon, with nine ministers in favor and three abstaining. During the tense six-hour meeting, ministers received updates on rising Israeli military casualties in Lebanon. In all, 15 Israeli reserve soldiers were killed Wednesday, the highest daily number so far in the monthlong war. Nine of the soldiers died when an anti-tank missile hit a house in a south Lebanon village.
The decision to authorize expanding the war was accompanied by growing criticism of the military and concern about rising casualties. The Israeli death toll stood at 118, including 36 civilians and 82 soldiers. On the Lebanese side, 711 people have been killed.
Critics said the army has failed to make a dent in Hezbollah's ability to fire rockets at Israel -- the guerrilla army fired 170 on Wednesday, for a war total of more than 3,500 -- and that pushing deeper into Lebanon would not stop such attacks since longer-range rockets can still reach Israel.
The Israeli daily Haaretz reported an angry exchange between Defense Minister Amir Peretz and his predecessor, Shaul Mofaz, in the Security Cabinet meeting. When Mofaz criticized the planned new offensive, Peretz reportedly shot back: "Where were you when Hezbollah built up this array (of weapons)?"
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called during the meeting, officials said, and Olmert told ministers after his 45 minute conversation with Rice that the offensive would be accompanied by a new diplomatic push.
Under the army plan, Israeli forces would move to the Litani River, some 30 kilometers (18 miles) from the Israel-Lebanon border. At the moment, more than 10,000 troops are engaged in house-to-house battles against Hezbollah fighters in a strip less than half that size.
Even in the current war zone, Israeli troops have had trouble taking control of towns and villages. Security officials say the guerrillas' bunkers, well-equipped with food, weapons and electricity, are a reason for Hezbollah's stamina. At times of lull, the Hezbollah gunmen emerge from the bunkers and set up new ambushes for troops.
On Thursday, troops backed by tanks and armored vehicles took up positions on the outskirts of the Christian town of Marjayoun in south Lebanon, about nine kilometers (six miles) from the border. Troops met no resistance. Soldiers also moved to a nearby strategic hill overlooking the Litani River Valley, witnesses said. Heavy battles were reported in south Lebanese villages across from Israel's Galilee panhandle, hard hit by rockets.
Israel hopes an expanded offensive will force Hezbollah guerrillas out of their strongholds across southern Lebanon. The offensive is expected to last a month and eliminate 70 to 80 percent of Hezbollah's short-range rocket launchers, but not its long-range launchers, senior military officials said.
However, Trade Minister Eli Yishai, who abstained in Wednesday's vote, said the assessment is too optimistic. "I think it will take a lot longer," he said.
The offensive would leave Israel once again in control of a security zone that it evacuated six years ago after a bloody 18-year occupation.
Danny Yatom, a senior member of Peretz' Labor Party and a general in the reserves, said moving deeper into Lebanon was pointless. "We are banging our head against the wall," he told Israel TV's Channel One. "And even if we reach the Litani, the Katyushas (rockets) won't stop.
The economic cost was also rising. Finance Minister Avraham Hirchson said the war has cost Israel some $1.6 billion so far. The finance minister said he will ask the government to cut US$650 million from the 2006 state budget to help pay for the war. Israel's total budget for 2006 is US$56 billion.
The prospect of a wider war would put tremendous pressure on the United Nations to rapidly agree on a cease-fire. The fighting has caused widespread destruction across southern Lebanon and forced hundreds of thousands of Israelis into bomb shelters.
However, France and the U.S. remained divided over a proposed truce resolution, particularly at whether Israeli troops would be able to stay in south Lebanon until they can hand over to a multinational force.
French President Jacques Chirac appealed for rapid agreement. "The most immoral of solutions would be to accept the current situation and give up on an immediate cease-fire," he said.
In a televised speech Wednesday night, Nasrallah, the Hezbollah chief, rejected as "unfair and unjust" a draft U.N. resolution that would temporarily let Israeli troops remain in south Lebanon and take defensive action.
"It has given Israel more than it wanted and more than it was looking for," he said.
Before the new offensive even got off the ground, fighting intensified Wednesday in the border strip Israeli soldiers are already occupying.
The army said it killed more than 50 Hezbollah fighters, but declined comment on an Israeli TV report that Iranian Revolutionary Guard soldiers were among the Hezbollah dead. Israel charges that Iran is aiding Hezbollah on the ground as well as supplying the guerrillas with weapons.
The AP contributed to this report.
Of course, they don't want to live next to an Iranian proxy state run by former Hezebola "freedom-fighters".
About the Meretz Political Party:
Meretz-Yahad
Meretz was founded in 1992 by a union of CRM, Mapam and Shinui. In the 1992 Knesset elections, Meretz won 12 seats, making it the third largest party, and joined the coalition with Yitzhak Rabin. Yossi Sarid led Meretz during the 1996 elections when it obtained nine seats and joined the opposition. It won ten seats in the 15th Knesset. In June 2005, the party was renamed Meretz-Yahad. The decision was a compromise between those who favored the name Yahad and others who preferred the party’s original name, Meretz. Renaming the party Yahad was an initiative by its leader, Yossi Beilin, in 2003 amid efforts to win back voters who had defected from Meretz to the center-left Labor Party and the secular Shinui Party.
We stand for:
1. A Just and Comprehensive Peace between Israel and its Neighbors
2. Human and Civil Rights
3. Social Justice
4. Ecology and a Safe Environment
So, a call by a Likud member: NO
A call by a Meretz Member: Yes
A call my a National Union Member: No
Looking for more snippets....
If I knew him, I sure would!
Israelinsider Poll:
What should Israel do now in Lebanon?
Flatten Hezbollah strongholds. 54%
Launch a serious ground operation. 33%
Rely on diplomacy. 6%
Declare victory and withdraw. 4%
The Meretz party has also been involved with anti-war demonstrations, fyi....
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