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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; waronmilitantislam
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Good thinking...because before today..Iran wasn't making any noises of joining any fight...just Syria.

BTW..Bill Cowan on Fox News...HE says he doesn't think the Thwarted plot in London as being an al-queda operation..but doesn't know who it was.

He DID say that he sees Israel taking the Bekaa Valley...and that hopefully, Saddam's WMDS will be found there..so I guess HE isn't thinking there will be a cease fire anytime soon.


421 posted on 08/10/2006 11:01:34 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Thank you KAC. Now I guess we wait to hear what their affiliation is. Not that it really matters I suppose- who knows how many of these groups and sub-groups exist at this point.
422 posted on 08/10/2006 11:02:58 AM PDT by hegemony
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To: jhp

I expect a shattering of alliances soon in the Israeli Knesset. I wouldn't be surprised if people are campaigning quietly behind the scenes, trying to budge people as the unrest grows.

Of course, I'm an outsider looking in, and before the flare up of hostilities, I hadn't followed it very closely, but there seems a growing perception of Olmert and Peretz' weakness...

Bibi had some real conflict and bad press last time he was PM, but some of the realities are different this time, including the growing awareness that the sacrifices of land isn't buying them any safety.


423 posted on 08/10/2006 11:03:31 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

When the Zionists began to move into what is now Israel back in the 1880s or thereabouts, they found the land had been badly used, highly deforested, and ill managed. For years as long as I remember there have been drives to get people to donate to plant trees in Israel. I suspect a lot of it had been planted since the 50s.


424 posted on 08/10/2006 11:06:10 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Broker

Their seems to be a growing disconnect bwtn the military and the politicians. Here you have this IDF SF commander saying "we're going to the Bekka", and on the other hand you have the politicians saying we've almost reached a cease fire agreement. That's about as opposite as you can get in this conflict.


425 posted on 08/10/2006 11:06:35 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"...some of the realities are different this time, including the growing awareness that the sacrifices of land isn't buying them any safety."

It had to be tried though, don't you think?

Even if only for the public historical record that they did try that avenue.

426 posted on 08/10/2006 11:07:35 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Bahbah

Yes, one person's "diversity" is anothers multinationalism...and most articles I have read about multinationalism are NOT positive ones.

Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC just said authorities believe this was an al-queda plot...after LT. Cowan on Fox says he doesn't think it was...

interesting..

BAh...I have very DEEP fears that Islam HAS worked it's way into our society so much...that getting rid of it would be on par with what the Israelis are having to do re: targeting Hezbollah, without killing Lebanese people..IMPOSSIBLE.


427 posted on 08/10/2006 11:07:46 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth

Knowing the mindset of the Iranians (the keys) will make Ahmadinejad's interview with Mike Wallace even more maddening for those of us who know. He's going to paint us as evil while they are for peace...and the left will eat it up.


428 posted on 08/10/2006 11:08:20 AM PDT by debg
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To: Txsleuth

Oh geez... I don't think my nerves can take much more!


429 posted on 08/10/2006 11:08:30 AM PDT by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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bttt


430 posted on 08/10/2006 11:08:55 AM PDT by Godzilla (OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?)
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To: Txsleuth

It was a big operation...and had been working for months. This type of thing isn't something a bunch of geeks pull off, so I suspect Al Qada connections.

Would be really interesting if it was funded by Shiite power going through Sunni buffers...


431 posted on 08/10/2006 11:10:14 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: DCPatriot

They tried, and the people could have benefited bit them.


432 posted on 08/10/2006 11:11:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jhp

WOW..could Israel be having a "vietnam moment"???

When the politicians try to run the war??

Lord help them if they do.


433 posted on 08/10/2006 11:11:33 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth

The politicians always run the war. But the wise politician tells the military the goal, and lets them go for it. The dumb interfere too much, and lose.


434 posted on 08/10/2006 11:12:57 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: debg

I gotta tell you...there is NO WAY the Ahmanutjob should get ANY network time...except as news.

NOT a feel good interview by a dotty old man.


435 posted on 08/10/2006 11:12:59 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth

436 posted on 08/10/2006 11:13:24 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Txsleuth

Lt. Cowan mentioned it could be Iran pulling the strings. I tend to agree with him on this one..a gut feeling is all.


437 posted on 08/10/2006 11:13:53 AM PDT by debg
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Well, the rub seemed to be that the Palis had to jumpt through ridiculous hoops traveling from Gaza to the West Bank.

Should have been one or the other...not both.

438 posted on 08/10/2006 11:15:25 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Txsleuth
he doesn't think the Thwarted plot in London as being an al-queda operation..but doesn't know who it was.

Here's a sampling of reaction on an AQ forum:

I am amazed by our brothers here who believe everything said by the British

It is easier to strike America from nearby rather than come on trips away from Britain ...

I do not believe this news ... If it is intended to (cause) loss of life as the British it would have been preferable in this case to attack where cinemas, discotheques and bars ... Etc.

I think that the whole propaganda of the first class may have an indirect impact on elections in Britain or the British occupation of Iraq now and especially after the increasing frequency of the targeting of British troops there ... Things will be clear soon, God.

439 posted on 08/10/2006 11:16:02 AM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: angelwings49

I know...I know..it kind of keeps the old stress level WAY up, doesn't it?

Well, this is the best place for me to be...I don't have family or friends that even WATCH the news, let alone pay attention.

I think they are counting on me to tell them anything important.

Therefore, I get my pep talks from freepers...especially when I panic about what the Israelis are finally going to do in Lebanon.

You are welcome to post your fears here anytime..and you won't be ridiculed or questioned...trust me.


440 posted on 08/10/2006 11:16:13 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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