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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; waronmilitantislam
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To: CedarDave

Sounded like he is in a Muzzie area and sirens in the background. Sounds like there may be as many as 25 still on the loose.


1,361 posted on 08/10/2006 8:21:37 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: RDTF

Isn't Pakistan the place where the WMDs ended up along with Syria?


1,362 posted on 08/10/2006 8:24:00 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: conservativepoet

Poor doggie. I'd protest too. :)


1,363 posted on 08/10/2006 8:24:59 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Chuck54

i'm not there,lol,,,thats where the b-o-m-b-s are made,,,
SSSSSSHHH ,,, don't tell nobody,,,,LOL . 3 shifts .


1,364 posted on 08/10/2006 8:26:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: CedarDave

From WND, on Olmert and his family. I had no idea he was this deep into the left, no wonder he's been such a failure:

A prominent member of the Israeli opposition Likud party commented Olmert's family has a history of left-wing activism.

"That Dana Olmert participates in these treacherous, anti-Semitic protests jibes with everything else we know about Olmert's family," said the Likud member, speaking on condition his name be withheld.

In the run-up to recent Israeli elections, which Olmert's Kadima Party won by a slim plurality, the Likud featured a series of television ads blasting Olmert's family as pacifists and army deserters.

One Likud broadcast began with a scene of Olmert at a speech exclaiming, "I want our children to have a better future." A background voice then asks which children Olmert is referring to. "perhaps his own children, Olmert's sons and one of his daughters, who refused to serve in the IDF; moreover, his sons live overseas and do not see their future in Israel ... if Olmert's children who live abroad knew of his withdrawal plan, they would not return to Israel at all."

Prior to elections, Olmert announced his administration would seek to withdraw Israel from most of Judea and Samaria – mountainous territory within rocket firing range of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and the country's international airport.

Olmert's oldest son Shaul lives in New York full time. After he finished compulsory Israeli military service, Shaul signed a petition of the pacifist organization Yesh G'vul, which calls for soldiers to refuse specific orders or not serve in the Israeli military all together.

The acting prime minister's youngest son, Ariel, reportedly refused to serve in the IDF.

Israel has a mandatory draft for all Jewish men and women over the age of 18.

Dana, who participated in this weekend's demonstration, is active in Machshom Watch, an Israeli leftist organization that monitors and often acts against Israeli checkpoints in Judea and Samaria. The IDF says the checkpoints are necessary to stop terrorists from infiltrating Israeli cities.

Some politicians who ran against Olmert also pointed out in ads and debates that Olmert's wife Aliza long has been involved in extreme leftist activism.

Aliza Olmert reportedly is a member of Israeli Women in Black, an activist group that calls for Israel to withdraw from the Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria and parts of Jerusalem.

Articles in the Israeli media have stated Aliza has been involved in the leftist Peace Now group and reportedly has voted for the Meretz party, whose platform includes the division of Jerusalem.


1,365 posted on 08/10/2006 8:26:49 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: BurbankKarl
NewsMax is reporting that FBI is saying it wasnt Al Qaeda.... I would tend to agree since they made so many mistakes, such as including a british intelligence officer in the group.

Not unexpected, there are many groups out there now, some organized, some not. All believe in Jihad and will try to copy 9/11 Al Qaeda. Let us hope that we have good intelligence coming out of some of the more dangerous groups. So far, we have had good work and good luck with stopping attacks since 9/11. Let's hope that continues.

1,366 posted on 08/10/2006 8:27:02 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: All

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

Came across this site on Islam and Terror


1,367 posted on 08/10/2006 8:27:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68


The US-Israeli Suicide Pact
by Elan Journo
Aug 11, '06 / 17 Av 5766


The Iran-Hamas-Hizbullah axis is fully responsible for initiating the war on Israel, but the Islamists' aggression is the logical product of US-Israeli policy. The longstanding commitment of Israel and America to "diplomatic engagement" with Palestinians and Islamists - a euphemism for appeasement - is suicidal.

For decades, America has urged Israel to placate and surrender to our common enemy. The US-endorsed "Road Map to Peace," like the "Peace Process" and sundry initiatives before it, rationalized Palestinian terrorism as the result of a legitimate grievance. If only the Palestinians' wish for a civilized, peaceful state were fulfilled, Washington deluded itself into believing, terrorism would end. And fulfilling this wish requires not smashing their terrorist infrastructure, but showering them with land and loot.

But the majority of Palestinians actually seek the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. Because they embrace this vicious goal, hordes of Palestinians idolized arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat for waging a terrorist war to wipe out Israel and establish a nationalist dictatorship. They abetted Arafat's terrorism and celebrated his atrocities. They served as cheerleaders or recruits for terrorist groups, and when they had the chance, they embraced the even more militant religious zealots of Hamas. It is no surprise that, according to a recent poll, 77 percent of Palestinians support their government's kidnapping of an Israeli soldier and that 60 percent support the continued rocket fire from Gaza into Israel.

But even as Palestinians mounted more attacks, Washington pressed Israel for more concessions, and bolstered the terrorist-sponsoring Palestinian Authority with millions of dollars in aid. The US forbade Israel from laying a finger on Arafat, and extended this tender solicitude to Hamas leaders. Washington actually whitewashed the blood-stained Arafat and his crony Mahmoud Abbas as peace-loving statesmen and invited them to the White House. And when Hizbullah now fires rockets at major cities in northern Israel, President George Bush demands that Israel show "restraint."

Depressingly, Israel has continually relented to American pressure to appease our common enemy. It has prostrated itself before the Palestinians, with flamboyantly self-sacrificial offers of land-for-peace; it has withdrawn from southern Lebanon, ceding ground necessary to its self-defense; it has withdrawn from Gaza, leaving its southern cities at the mercy of rocket fire from the Hamas-run territory.

Such US-endorsed appeasement by Israel, across decades, has enabled Hizbullah and Hamas to mount their current attacks. Yet, America remains undeterred in its commitment to appeasement.

The US is now trying to woo Iran with endless offers of economic "incentives," if only Iran promises to stop chasing nuclear weapons. Evading Iran's lust to "wipe Israel off the map," evading its funding of Hizbullah and Hamas, evading its avowed enmity to America, evading its decades of fomenting and orchestrating a proxy terror war against American civilians - evading all of this, Washington deludes itself into believing that paying Iran off will, somehow, wipe out its hostility. Inevitably, this encourages Iran to continue its aggressive support for terrorists and its fervent quest for nuclear weapons.

Merely by prolonging the negotiations endlessly, Iran gains time to acquire a weapon to wield against its neighbors, to provide to Hamas and Hizbullah or to other proxies to use against the United States. And were Iran eventually to accept some deal, American aid would merely be sustaining Iran's regime and, inexorably, a covert nuclear program.

We are teaching the Islamic totalitarians in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran that their goal of destroying us is legitimate, that aggression is practical, and that the more aggressive they are, the more we will surrender. US-Israeli policy has demonstrated that we lack the intellectual self-confidence to name, let alone condemn, our enemies, and that we lack the will to deal with threats mercilessly. It vindicates the Islamists' premise that their religious world-view can bring a scientific, technologically advanced West to its knees.

To protect the lives of our citizens, America and Israel must stop evading the nature of the enemy's cause: our complete destruction. We must stop appeasing our common enemy and embrace self-defense as a matter of intransigent principle. To put an end to the current rocket attacks from Lebanon and Gaza, America should urge Israel to annihilate the annihilators: Hamas and Hizbullah. And to thwart Iran's nuclear ambition, America must use as much military force as is necessary to dispose of that catastrophic threat and the regime responsible for it.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=6455


1,368 posted on 08/10/2006 8:28:05 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"Bush Administration coming under pressure from FORMER senior officials, PUNDITS AND MEDIA...""

THAT is what is wrong with the Iraq war..and every other thing that Bush has done.

If I have a complaint about Pres. Bush it is that he needs to tell them all to shut up!


1,369 posted on 08/10/2006 8:29:09 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: CedarDave

Let's hope the second and third string terror groups step all over the toes of the pros. Even when 11 Egyptian students decide to go on walkabout, the terror detection apparatus is activated and stones get turned over that wouldn't be otherwise.


1,370 posted on 08/10/2006 8:31:15 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: BurbankKarl

the FBI doesn't think anybody is Al Qaeda.


1,371 posted on 08/10/2006 8:31:31 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

arutz

06:20 Aug-11-06
Reports: 7 Killed in IAF Attacks in Beirut
06:17 Aug-11-06
8 Soldiers Seriously Wounded in Fighting in S. Lebanon
06:13 Aug-11-06
IDF Soldier Killed in Southern Lebanon


1,372 posted on 08/10/2006 8:33:12 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sageb1

Yes...I think all of us are confused...and emotionally drained..

We wake up to a "what almost happened"...and then this conflicting messages out of the ME..it is enough to keep us all on edge.

I was serious though..I don't want to offend...or make you uncomfortable...I will stick with Ahmanutjob!! LOL


1,373 posted on 08/10/2006 8:33:48 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: jeltz25

Eli Lake up now. Saying the same thing -- delay, uncertainity with Olmert government -- Batchelor/Lake comparing to the Clinton administration. Also, West Bank likely to heat up, lots of money pouring in there, would-be terrorists (not necessarily Hamas activists) will shoot rockets for money. Can easily strike middle-Israel targets including their nuclear facility.


1,374 posted on 08/10/2006 8:33:53 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thank You MA'AM ,,,You are a GREAT HELP in these Times .
(Wisdom-n-Posts) FO'SHO .


1,375 posted on 08/10/2006 8:34:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

This doesn't sound like a "lull in the fighting"

What is going on here?


1,376 posted on 08/10/2006 8:34:40 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: varmintxer

I DO NOT like the reports of more of them out there...I guess they had to arrest the others..and expose the plot...but jeez louise, I wish they had gotten them all.


1,377 posted on 08/10/2006 8:35:05 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: bnelson44

MSM misinformation?


1,378 posted on 08/10/2006 8:35:34 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Well..alright, according to this, AMERICA is the reason that Olmert isn't fighting??

That doesn't smell right...

Maybe they are using it as an excuse..but Bush knows as well as we do that they are fighting these terrorists for ALL of the infidels in the world.


1,379 posted on 08/10/2006 8:37:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Now what's a Louisiana boy doing talking about Oklahoma that way?

(Me, I was born in OK, even if I did grow up in Louisiana, so I am curious)


1,380 posted on 08/10/2006 8:38:16 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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