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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; waronmilitantislam
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To: conservativepoet

Hope springs eternal at the United Nations ;)


1,021 posted on 08/10/2006 4:50:44 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: nuclady

"The problem is, Sean doesn't HAVE any debating skills."

That, and either a lousy staff or he can't remember what they tell him.


1,022 posted on 08/10/2006 4:50:53 PM PDT by Paul R. ("Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggie" until you can find a rock" - Will Rogers)
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To: La Enchiladita

Both Hez and Lebanon are talking about rejecting the deal. Things are afoot we don't know about, and neither does Fox News. Don't let the MSM get you down.


1,023 posted on 08/10/2006 4:51:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I just got home from babysitting. Did any of you hear John Batchelor last night? He said that Cynthia McKinney should be able land a gig with Keith Oberman.


1,024 posted on 08/10/2006 4:51:43 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: bnelson44
Dopes spring eternal at the United Nations.

There...that's better. ;o)

1,025 posted on 08/10/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: txrangerette

Yep, it can be done. Probably won't happen during the war, though, unless it looks too desparate.


1,026 posted on 08/10/2006 4:52:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: All
Lebanese families to raise issues with Hassan Nasrallah for causing the death of their children

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://alsaha.fares.net/sahat%3F128%40217.FnnHfYHfdYC.0%40.2cc13d8d&prev=/language_tools

1,027 posted on 08/10/2006 4:52:45 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: tsmith130

wow they are show the history of liquid explosives on Fox News I hope they are not giving anyone a lesson on how to make a bomb.


1,028 posted on 08/10/2006 4:53:10 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: harwood

Good for them. And he has.


1,029 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:04 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: olde north church

Proposal: Hizbullah disarmament will wait

Latest ceasefire proposal does not call for disarming terror group as precondition to ceasefire; according to deal being formulated, IDF will gradually pull out of Lebanon and will be replaced by an international force including 10,000 French troops

Sources in Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s office expressed cautious optimism early Friday regarding the possibility that the latest American diplomatic maneuver will in fact lead to a ceasefire.

The proposal will call for Hizbullah’s disarmament in accordance with UN Resolution 1559, but this will not be declared a precondition for reaching a ceasefire.
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However, the proposal does require the return of the kidnapped IDF soldiers to Israel.

France retracted its demand for the withdrawal of IDF forces to the international border as a ceasefire precondition.

As a result of the deal being formulated, the IDF will gradually pull out of Lebanon and will be replaced by an international force under the auspices of the UN and with Lebanese government consent.

The international force will include 10,000 French troops, and perhaps more from Spain and other countries, who will deploy in south Lebanon along with UNIFIL and 15,000 Lebanese soldiers.

The force will deploy in a buffer zone free of Hizbullah terrorists and in Lebanon-Syria border crossings.

The international force will be tasked with preventing the smuggling of Katyusha rockets and arms from Syria and Iran to Lebanon, but it will not disarm Hizbullah.

The Security Council is expected to vote on the ceasefire plan within the next two days.

Hizbullah, for its part, announced that it would not abide by any UN Security Council decision that would not call for the withdrawal of IDF troops from Lebanon.

'International community understands'

Lebanese media said the terror group continues to back Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora’s “Seven-Point” plan.

Lebanese Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh said “the proposal does not coincide with Lebanon’s goals because it does not call for an immediate ceasefire and (Israeli) withdrawal. The decision also discriminates against Lebanese prisoners (due to the call for the release of the kidnapped IDF troops).”

Following talks with US Assistant Secretary of State David Welch in Jerusalem, Olmert said “at this time, a new diplomatic formula with positive implications that could end the fighting is being formulated. If it isn't accepted, Israel will take off the gloves."

Sources in the PM’s Office said the chances for a ceasefire that would meet Israel’s requirements are “50-50.”

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni also met with Welch in a bid to formulate a ceasefire proposal that would be accepted by Israel.

Hover, Olmert did not authorize Livni to travel to New York, where she was scheduled to discuss the ceasefire proposal with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

A senior official at the PM’s Office said Olmert did not want any more pressure to be applied on Israel as a result of Livni’s presence in the UN.

Meanwhile the prime minister and Defense Minister Amir Peretz instructed the army to put the next phase of its ground operation in south Lebanon on hold to prevent further escalation and after the White House apparently made it clear that such a move would be detrimental to the diplomatic efforts.

However, a source in Jerusalem said “The international community understands that we cannot accept the continued rocket fire on northern Israel.”

Yitzhak Benhorin contributed to the report


02:13 , 08.11.06

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3289568,00.html


1,030 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:25 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

If Hez and Lebanon are rejecting a cease fire they are

1) doing it for public consumption to make it appear as if they have the upper hand in negotiations

2) purposefully dragging out this conflict for reasons unknown

3) suicidal


1,031 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:29 PM PDT by jhp
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To: RDTF

LOL!!!


1,032 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:35 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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United Nations - Russia Proposes 72-Hour Humanitarian Truce In Lebanon
1,033 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:50 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: mware

Dynomite!

---sorry---


1,034 posted on 08/10/2006 4:55:00 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

CNN, Candy Crawley specifically, is pontificating about the political impacts of today's terror plot thwarting. She is claiming that Bush's credibility is down because of Iraq, and that the dems are leading the polls by 8plus points on national security (yeah right). She is spinning that this event today will help democrats; she is a joke...but then again, she works for CNN. These "journo's" are beyond the pale. Working so hard to spin this as a plus for Lamont and the democrats. CNN is pathetic. Guess I'll switch back to Shep.


1,035 posted on 08/10/2006 4:55:04 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: jhp

I suspect 2, myself.


1,036 posted on 08/10/2006 4:56:19 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: conservativepoet; All

in the south,we call this the"SHUCK-N-JIVE",,,LOL,,, .


1,037 posted on 08/10/2006 4:56:21 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (GOD BLESS MI5,IDF,THE TROOPS,,,,,,W .)
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To: bnelson44

I don't see Lebanon agreeing to this.


1,038 posted on 08/10/2006 4:57:01 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It's a possibility that Hezbollah is taking instructions from Iran...that they want to keep Israel fighting so that they can make good on their warning about the 22nd of August.

What do you think?

1,039 posted on 08/10/2006 4:57:10 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum



Tel Aviv Univ. Poll: 67 Percent Backs Retaliation
02:28 Aug 11, '06 / 17 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) Two-thirds of the Jewish population in Israel back continued retaliation against Hizbullah terrorists, according to a new poll issued by the University of Tel Aviv.

Almost half of the respondents also said they support staging negotiations with the Hamas terrorist organization, while slightly more than one-third backs talks with Hizbullah terrorist leaders in order to return two kidnapped IDF soldiers.

The Arab sector overwhelmingly favors talking with Hamas and Hizbullah and only one-quarter said that Israeli's retaliation is justified.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=109770


1,040 posted on 08/10/2006 4:57:16 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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