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Why I believe Leiberman potentially cost the Dems a dozen or more House seats...

Posted on 08/09/2006 6:15:51 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8

I've been thinking and saying this the past few days in posts in threads, and now after seeing Leiberman actually lose, I REALLY want other FReeper input. I strongly believe that it HAS to be assumed that there are at least a couple hundred thousand life time Democrats who are active voters every two years but not liberal ideologically. And it stands to reason that they live in the more moderate Congressional districts that have tight House races every two years, because voters like that are why moderate swing districts are moderate swing districts. And what makes those couple hundred thousands life time non-liberal Democrats non-liberal is that they are a combination of the following traits;

they are Christians,

or pro-military/pro-war on terrro,

or oppose gay marraige,

or oppose partial birth abortion,

or oppose abortion period if they're a REAL practicing Christian,

or support conservative Judges not activist ones,

or want real border control and immigration reform and no amnesty.

Well ALL of those things put those voters at even greater odds with the liberal Democrat left then they thought previously, much more so than Leiberman, since he only supported the war, not ANY of those other positions, and look what happened to him last night?

And you only have to have about 10% of those couple hundred thousand moderate voters either not vote or vote Republican for that to be a 20,000 net loss to Democrat House candidates nationwide, or a 40,000 net loss to Democrat House candidates nationwide if they vote Republican, that doubles the loss as they went the other way and that has the effect of doubling the number considering both candidate voter totals.

And 10% is conservative a estimate I believe (no pun intended) and when speaking of close House races in historically narrow moderate districts, 20,000 votes on the Democrat side spread over a couple dozen districts, with low off year voter turnout, is a BIG DEAL. It's all just math. :) That's why I think this can have a BIG impact.

And all this above is not even taking the practicing Jewish vote into account. Many practicing Jews who strongly support Israel and the war who have strong social values but still vote Democrat, will take Leiberman's forced exit from the Democrat party personally. That is unavoidable. And when they go into that voting booth, that will have an impact. I just have a feeling about all this. I've REALLY thought it through and talked to some political friends of mine. It's all just statistics and the fact that people have strong feelings, and NO ONE likes being bullied out of a long time membership by newcomers like the liberals are doing to long time old Democrats. There will be consequences and repercussions for that. I'd bet on it.

So, what's everyone think? I'm VERY excited about this and think last nights events bode well for the conservative agenda in November. Not only was scandal plagued radical liberal McKinney given the boot be her own constituants, but a REAL conservative replaced a RINO incumbent in Michigan is more great news.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2006; democratdefections; election2006; joementum; leiberman; lieberman; midterms; novemberelections
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To: TexasPatriot8
Across the board tax cuts

...which, frankly, were dwarfed by the Reagan tax cuts. Not to mention the gimmick of tax 'rebates' and a temporary suspension of the death tax. conservative Judicial nominees on ALL Levels blah, blah, blah...

The true tests of which will occur when the SD and Mississippi abortion bans end up in front of the court.

rebuilding a strong miliary and intelligence infrastructure to protect the country.

Which is still far weaker than it was in 1985. Hard line on North Korea and Iran and other dictatorships and communist states.

I love it when Bushbots run out of stuff to list and start listing fluff. We'll have taken a hard line against these nations when we actually do something about them.

partial birth abortion ban.

The signing of which meant nothing - just like the gay marriage amendment talk.

gay marriage bans in most states

...which really have nothing to do with what's going on in Washington.

banning government funding of embryonic stem cell research from embryos created to be destroyed.

Again, a tempest in a teapot. These embryos are going to be destroyed.

No Child Left Behind, which has saved the government money, increased test grades, and improved schools nationally. And my wife is an Honors AP history teacher and has seen its positive effects first hand.

Ah, so you're married to one. That explains it.

And if not for the Democrats, there would be Social Security reform, a flag burning amendment, and the amendment protecting traditional marriage, as well as a REAL border security and immigration reform bill from the Housee that ALL real conservatives support, that offers no amnesty. GOP backs that, DNC doesn't. It's that simple.

What's simple is that after 6 years of conservative rule we still have an IRS, a Department of Education, a new Federal Bureaucracy, 100000 new Muslim immmigrants a year, countless illegal mexican immigrants a year, an enormous deficit and debt, and a conservative movement that is weaker and more marginalized than it was before this president took office.

Hardly a good half decade's work.
201 posted on 08/11/2006 11:28:07 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: TexasPatriot8; Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

I think you're onto something, TexasP.


202 posted on 08/12/2006 8:56:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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