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Respect earned but not always given (Homeschooling)
Washington Times ^ | 8-7-06 | Michael Smith

Posted on 08/07/2006 11:39:05 AM PDT by JZelle

How many parents would say that as their teenager gets older and shows more and more maturity, that is the time to begin clamping down and placing more restrictions on him? It does not make sense. Most parents would be glad to allow their teenager more freedom if he is demonstrating he can be trusted to be responsible.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; homeschool; homeschooling; homeschools; ny; pa; vouchers
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1 posted on 08/07/2006 11:39:07 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Nice piece.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 11:43:05 AM PDT by beeler ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice...moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue")
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To: JZelle
"But, but, but... if homeschooling becomes widespread, how will we indoctrinate them?"

Well, you won't. And I kinda like that!

3 posted on 08/07/2006 11:43:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: JZelle

The analogy doesn't work because parents aren't a union with their own agenda and their own survival at stake.


4 posted on 08/07/2006 11:43:35 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: JZelle
the student should be able to read, write and support himself without recourse to the state after he has completed his education.

And considering that our public schools repeatedly deliver at 100% of that goal, home schooling should be discouraged. /sarcasm off .

I wonder if statistics exist (and are not suppressed) that show what % of public high school graduates end up collecting public assistance, vs the home-schooled in the same districts.

5 posted on 08/07/2006 11:44:36 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
The analogy doesn't work because parents aren't a union with their own agenda and their own survival at stake.

I disagree. They are a VALID union with a LEGITIMATE agenda... the agenda focuses on their children and yes, their very survival IS at stake. :)

6 posted on 08/07/2006 11:45:58 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: StarCMC

Homeschool PING.


7 posted on 08/07/2006 11:46:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Goodbye, Momma...)
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To: JZelle
Home-schooling has proved that it produces students who excel in academics and are socially well-adjusted. Home-schoolers consistently score 20 to 30 percentile points above the national average on standardized achievement tests. Also, the latest study from the National Home Education Research Institute, titled "Homeschooling Grows Up," shows that home-schooled graduates are more involved in their communities than the average public school student.

All for a fraction of the cost of a public education. That must really grind on the NEA Union kool-aid drinkers...

8 posted on 08/07/2006 11:47:03 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: TR Jeffersonian; nnn0jeh; Cailleach

ping


9 posted on 08/07/2006 11:51:33 AM PDT by kalee
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To: 2banana
All for a fraction of the cost of a public education.

A fraction of a fraction.

10 posted on 08/07/2006 11:53:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: AbeKrieger

My very liberal BIL once told me that his concern with homeschooling is that they wouldn't be able to support themselves in the world. Ha! I told him I highly suspected that it wasn't gonna be hordes of homeschoolers lined up outside the welfare office waiting for a handout.

I figure if a Wiccan wants to educate their child on how to grow organic produce by the light of the moon and sell it to make a fortune, more power to 'em. And if the Amish family with a family bakery is doing well and not taking anything from society, I say let them be.


11 posted on 08/07/2006 12:11:41 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (It's hot outside.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
All for a fraction of the cost of a public education. A fraction of a fraction.

Only if the teaching parent is already not working. Factor in opportunity costs and the price of homeschooling could exceed the economic costs of public school. On the other hand, if you factor in social costs, I'll bet homeschooling completely outperforms public school.

12 posted on 08/07/2006 12:17:08 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: FateAmenableToChange


I know someone who has been lucky enough to homeschool their child.

She’s been on unemployment for a year.

You can apply for as many jobs as you want, but if you have no motivation to actually receive a job proposal, let alone actually accept one, your don’t have to go back to work.

She’s just taking advantage of the system. It’s a sorry thing to do, but smart nonetheless.


13 posted on 08/07/2006 12:32:21 PM PDT by Skinn_dogg
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To: Aggie Mama; agrace; bboop; blu; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; dawn53; ...
Homeschool Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Are you a homeschooler looking for advice from other homeschoolers? Visit our Free Republic Homeschoolers' Forum 2006-2007.

14 posted on 08/10/2006 9:14:16 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Ping!


15 posted on 08/10/2006 9:14:45 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Don't forget to factor in the cost of the building in which homeschooling occurs--When parents say that they educate their kids for $500 a year, I wonder if they are living in an open field with no building, electricity, food, gas for the auto.

Much of the money spent on public education goes to heat building, run buses, and supply lighting.

Granted homeschoolers are not needing to support a bureaucracy, so it is cheaper than public schools, just not as cheap as some want to paint it.

16 posted on 08/10/2006 9:20:55 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Only if the teaching parent is already not working. Factor in opportunity costs and the price of homeschooling could exceed the economic costs of public school.

It depends on how much money the teaching parent earns. My husband and I took all that into account as each of our three children were born. With the first two, I brought home more money working part-time on nights and weekends than I would have working full-time in the daytime. How? Because, when we worked split shifts, we took turns watching the kids, and we didn't have to pay for childcare.

I know homeschool parents working split shifts like we did, or in some cases the mother working part-time, or they just sacrifice - no vacations, smaller house, etc.

17 posted on 08/10/2006 9:24:59 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

It's as inexpensive or as expensive as the parents want to make it.

If I wanted to, I could educate my kids using the public library system. Everything we'd need is right there.

On the other hand, I could spend a fortune on a curriculum.

As is, we buy books cheap, use the library often, and spend more on cooperative activities and field trips. Altogether about $500 for all three kids.

As a matter of fact, we saved money not sending our kids to school. We were able to do without a second car for years; I would've needed that second car to drive my kids to preschool and then third, fourth, and fifth grades, the years when no schoolbuses are provided to us here.


18 posted on 08/10/2006 9:36:41 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: AbeKrieger
I wonder if statistics exist (and are not suppressed) that show what % of public high school graduates end up collecting public assistance, vs the home-schooled in the same districts.

The vast majority of homeschooled students I know are off to college by 18, if not earlier. There is an amazing number that I know of who attended community colleges (at least) AS part of their high school education. I've yet to meet a welfare mentality homeschool family.

19 posted on 08/10/2006 9:47:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
My understanding is that the vast majority of spending in the public school system is administrative costs; like a district superintendent and his wife who are pulling in $100,000 per year between the two of them. Last I knew, they had been retired for 10 years and were still going strong.

Oh yeah, during his last few years as superintendent, they got all their friends high paying jobs in the district so as to up THEIR pensions also. Nice little retirement bonus for their friends. (Courtesy of the last school district we lived in)

20 posted on 08/10/2006 9:54:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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