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Bush: Cubans on the island will decide country's fate
AFP ^ | 08/07/06

Posted on 08/07/2006 8:29:36 AM PDT by presidio9

President George W. Bush said Cubans "on the island" ought to decide what kind of government and future they want before US-based exiles take up grievances like property confiscated under the communist Fidel Castro regime.

"Our desire is for the Cuban people to be able to choose their own form of government," he said.

The US leader declared that while "Cuba has the possibility of transforming itself from a tyrannical situation to a different type of society ... the people on the island of Cuba ought to decide" how that change occurs.

"Once the people of Cuba decide the form of government, then Cuban-Americans can take an interest in that country and address the issues of property confiscation. But first things first. The Cuban people need to decide the future of their country."

Bush spoke a week after Fidel Castro provisionally handed over his presidential powers to his brother, defense minister Raul Castro, as he reportedly recovered from surgery to stem intestinal bleeding.

Bush on Thursday urged Cubans to work for democratic change and pledged US support following the temporary handover of power, and on Friday Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice delivered a message to Cubans on US-funded Radio and TV Marti repeating the same themes.

Both have denied US plans to invade the island.

Successive US governments have sought unsuccessfully to oust Castro since he since he came to power in 1959, including an ill-fated invasion backed by the CIA in 1961. Cuba has been under a US economic embargo since 1961.

Bush on said he had no information about Castro's condition.

"Cuba is not a very transparent society," he said.

"The only thing I know is what has been speculated. And that is that he is very ill -- on the other hand he's going to be coming out of hospital. I don't know. Really don't know."


TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: came4thezots; castro; castrosdead; chemehzotted; cuba; deadrat; deathwatch; expats; freedom; left4thepics; ratbaitedkilled; raul; zotchemeh
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1 posted on 08/07/2006 8:29:38 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

RE:Change in Cuba."The people on the island ought to decide."Easier said than done.Cuba is for all intents and purposes a gulag.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 8:39:41 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: presidio9

The adults are still in charge.
3 posted on 08/07/2006 9:18:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Thombo2
RE:Change in Cuba."The people on the island ought to decide."Easier said than done.Cuba is for all intents and purposes a gulag.

You got it right.

Even worse, the new "warden" is even more sick, twisted and sadistic then the old one.

4 posted on 08/07/2006 9:18:11 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
Even worse, the new "warden" is even more sick, twisted and sadistic then the old one.

At least that's what the MSM has been telling you. Or do you know Raul?

5 posted on 08/07/2006 9:27:02 AM PDT by presidio9 (“The term ‘civilians’ does not exist in Islamic religious law.”)
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To: Chemeh

Welcome aboard. IB4TZ.


7 posted on 08/07/2006 9:30:45 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: presidio9

I have a number of Cuban friends and they have a lively kick in their steps this past week. I love Cubans, especially ex-pats, and hate to see the Castro Plantation turn over to the slave owner's brother.


8 posted on 08/07/2006 9:33:05 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Chemeh; Sonny M
Chemeh
Since Aug 7, 2006

Did you join up today to post how great Cuba is? If it's so great...move there.

9 posted on 08/07/2006 9:34:11 AM PDT by shield ( A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Chemeh; darkwing104; Zavien Doombringer

Alex Trebek: The answer was red. Chemeh, you are at minus seven thousand two hundred dollars...

Got a live one ping! Calling all kitties


10 posted on 08/07/2006 9:34:54 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: sully777
I love Cubans

Mee too. I'll take mustard on mine please.

11 posted on 08/07/2006 9:35:51 AM PDT by presidio9 (“The term ‘civilians’ does not exist in Islamic religious law.”)
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To: presidio9

It's been widely reported that Raul is a harsher master than Fidel. True, not many of us know that first hand, but then, there is a lot we don't know first hand. We still have to make decisions based on what we do know.

IMHO, it's an open question as to whether Raul is strong enough to keep power. I think things could go either way down there, to freedom, or stay totalitarian. Probably depends on the desires of the military, of which Raul is currently the head.


12 posted on 08/07/2006 9:35:53 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Chemeh; reagan_fanatic; Izzy Dunne; MeekOneGOP
Better Come Here Fast!


IBTZ

13 posted on 08/07/2006 9:38:03 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Sam Cree
It's been widely reported

what we do know

Note that these terms are not mutually inclusive. Sure, I've see the reports that Raul is worse than Fidel in the same sources that are generally taking the opportunity to come up for air from the "Iraq is in the midst of an unwinnable civil war" stories. I don't believe they have any idea what they are talking about either. Stirring up controversy and fear mongering is what sells papers. Nobody turns on the news to hear "another perfect day."

I have yet to hear President Bush or Condoleezza Rice or anybody I really trust express the opinion that Raul is worse than Fidel, and until I do, I'll keep my opinions to myself and so should you.

14 posted on 08/07/2006 9:41:10 AM PDT by presidio9 (“The term ‘civilians’ does not exist in Islamic religious law.”)
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To: presidio9

OK but how are they going to do it when the government has all the guns?


15 posted on 08/07/2006 9:42:28 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; The_Victor; Tijeras_Slim
Chemeh writes: ok how the *BEEP* do you know that? have u talked to him? have u ever been to cuba? Cuba is not like in the movies, they have free schools and univercities so if u dont want to live in a dumpster all u have to do is get good grades in schools join the communist party (even just for the show) and live properly...its NOT that hard u know...

"Zotting...It's beautiful man...it's freakin beautiful"~~ Tom Cruise from the movie TAPS


16 posted on 08/07/2006 9:44:12 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: presidio9
Most Cubans and exiles from Communist countries tend to lean to the Conservatives.
17 posted on 08/07/2006 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: BenLurkin
The Cuban Exiles have a stake back in their homeland and should not be denied the right to participate in the formation of a new government.

Moreover, no Cuban citizen has ever lived in a democratic state whereas the Cuban Exiles in America know how democracy works.
18 posted on 08/07/2006 9:45:07 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton (Texan Pride)
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To: Chemeh

You have got to be kidding? I know Cubans first hand that will tell you its not like the Utopia you are claiming it to be. You must be on Crack!


19 posted on 08/07/2006 9:46:50 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Chemeh; Darksheare

OOOoooo, you didn't plan on staying long did you?


20 posted on 08/07/2006 9:47:18 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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