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'L.A. Times' Study Finds High Number of Vietnam Atrocities
Editor and Publisher ^ | August 6 2006

Posted on 08/06/2006 6:02:58 PM PDT by jmc1969

A study of declassified Army documents by the Los Angeles Times on Sunday found that the killings of civilians by U.S. soldiers during the Vietnam war were far more numerous than previously known -- and went largely unpunished. In total, 320 incidents of abuse by U.S. soldiers are substantiated.

"Abuses were not confined to a few rogue units," the Times reported. "They were uncovered in every Army division that operated in Vietnam."

Atrociities by U.S. troops in Iraq are currently gaining wide attention.

A Pentagon task force in the early 1970s compiled a file with 9000 documents. Records reveal seven massacres in Vietnam from 1967 through 1971 in which at least 137 civilians died, excluding the 1968 massacre in My Lai. There were 78 other attacks on non-combatants in which at least 57 people were killed, 56 wounded and 15 sexually assaulted.

Retired Brig. Gen. John H. Johns, a Vietnam veteran who served on the task force, told the Times he once supported keeping the records secret but now believes they deserve wide attention in light of alleged attacks on civilians and abuse of prisoners in Iraq.

"We can't change current practices unless we acknowledge the past," said Johns.

(Excerpt) Read more at editorandpublisher.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: retroassholes; shindig; smothersbrothers; vietnam; vietnamwar; war
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1 posted on 08/06/2006 6:03:00 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

A bit late, who cares?


2 posted on 08/06/2006 6:04:56 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: jmc1969

"'L.A. Times' Study Finds High Number of Vietnam Atrocities'"

We know. Kerry already admitted to them.


3 posted on 08/06/2006 6:05:13 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: jmc1969
As everyone already knows, "War is hell." Grow up, American media.
4 posted on 08/06/2006 6:05:19 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: jmc1969
The Fifth Column marches against the Vietnam GIs again...
5 posted on 08/06/2006 6:05:36 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: jmc1969

If the media has its way, this country will never win another war.


6 posted on 08/06/2006 6:05:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("He hits me, he cries, he runs to the court and sues me.")
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To: jmc1969

Guess the MSM need to show John Kerry was right. Excuse me while I throw up.


7 posted on 08/06/2006 6:05:51 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: jmc1969
John Kerry admitted to war crimes in front of a Congressional committee.
8 posted on 08/06/2006 6:06:31 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Oh, but what about Iraq?

That is what they are implying, right? It went on in Vietnam and must be going on in Iraq.


9 posted on 08/06/2006 6:07:06 PM PDT by dhs12345
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And the communist Vietnamese government murdered how many people after that war? To complete media silence....


10 posted on 08/06/2006 6:08:41 PM PDT by Luke21
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Typical LA Times bias ~ the more than a million civilians killed by the Viet Cong, the NVA, and American peaceniks are simply ignored so they can focus on 360 "incidents".


11 posted on 08/06/2006 6:08:47 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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"Abuses were not confined to a few rogue units," the Times reported. "They were uncovered in every Army division that operated in Vietnam."

I thought they were john Kerry's Units

Atrociities by U.S. troops in Iraq are currently gaining wide attention.


You have got to be sh##ting me!

Where are the f##king mass graves stories.
12 posted on 08/06/2006 6:08:58 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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And compared to the NV Communists, nothing.

We dealt with the problems, sent people to Leavenworth, etc.

They brutalized and killed hundreds of thousands, millions in the case of the Cambodians, and somehow we're the bad guys, and the reality of who we were dealing with, and fighting, doesn't get reported.


13 posted on 08/06/2006 6:08:59 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: jmc1969

I remember reading that our soldiers in Vietnam couldn't always tell the civilians from the combatants. And children were duped into delivering exposives to kill our military.

War is hell!

This article is anti-American propaganda, pure and simple.


14 posted on 08/06/2006 6:09:17 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Luke21

Rummel has estimates of the numbers. They're big.


15 posted on 08/06/2006 6:09:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: jmc1969
The Times report includes, available online (at www.latimes.com), sworn statements by witnesses, investigators' reports, a list of "verified civilian slayings," and a memo by John Dean, President Nixon's counsel, among other material.

Retired Brig. Gen. John H. Johns, a Vietnam veteran who served on the task force, told the Times he once supported keeping the records secret but now believes they deserve wide attentioni in light of alleged attacks on civilians and abuse of prisoners in Iraq.

Boy, this makes a believer outta me!

16 posted on 08/06/2006 6:10:30 PM PDT by digger48
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"'L.A. Times' Study Finds High Number of Vietnam Atrocities"

Well of course it does.

LAT = MSM Fifth Column, Member in Good Standing

17 posted on 08/06/2006 6:11:21 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: FreedomPoster

The leftwingnuts working at the LA Times are actually responsible, personally, for the death of over half a million people driven into the sea by their allies, the NVA.


18 posted on 08/06/2006 6:11:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: jmc1969
Since the LA Times had to go back to Viet Nam to find something to slam the military with, this must mean we're making progress in Iraq.
19 posted on 08/06/2006 6:12:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jmc1969

When will these communist let the Viet Nam war REST IN PEACE. This story is nothing but more anti-American propaganda. The war was over 30 years ago.
Also how come they never seem to mention the Vietnamese atrocities? What about the 2 to 5 million Vietnamese murdered by the communist AFTER the end the war?
These deaths can be directly attributed to the ANTI WAR protestors here in the USA. THE LA TIMES IS NOTHING MORE THAN A VOICE PEASE FOR THE HATE AMERICAN COMMUNIST. That for over almost 40 years has done nothing but attack the American GI’s and this country. I will dance the day they go under for their lies and hatred of America.


20 posted on 08/06/2006 6:14:37 PM PDT by Exton1
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