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To: MonroeDNA
What does that have to do with anything? All she said was that she was concerned with her nieces and nephews.

I am a public school teacher and I have encountered multiple homeschooled children in one way or another. Some have entered public school after home schooling--there are 2 homeschooled kids on my daughter's softball team--there are 5 or more at our church. Based on my experiences with these kids and many others over time, I find that some homeschoolers are wonderful kids with gracious manners and social ease and others are down right obnoxious.

At church today, I did not think it was cute today when a child (who is homeschooled) walked up to me and TOLD me in a loud demanding voice with his face pinched and his hands to his side in fists to "get out of my way, I want a cookie now." His mother was right there and laughed at him--she thought it was funny. I did not. Other kids avoid him as much as they can as he is rude, refuses to wait his turn in Sunday School and screams if he is not the first one called on every time.

...and yes, I've seen success and failures from public schools. It runs the entire gamut on both sides.

Parents have more control than they think in every situation. Just because a child attends public school, that does not mean they will grow up to be some drug and sex crazed addict. Just because a child is homeschooled, that does not mean they will grow up to be a stellar adult.

70 posted on 08/06/2006 5:29:48 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

So, the problem is the children? We just have to eliminate the children from the education equation and it'll work out!


73 posted on 08/06/2006 5:34:32 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: SoftballMominVA; durasell
Parents have more control than they think in every situation, ( Softball mom)

So, the problem is the children? We just have to eliminate the children from the education equation and it'll work out!( durasell)

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So....is the solution to get rid of the parent? Should the government snatch newborns from their mother's arms and raise children in government orphanages? Hey! Just think of all those NEA jobs!

The problem with government schools is that they can not hold the parents accountable. Also, the government school teachers and principals can NOT dish out the very politically incorrect advice that these parents desperately need. If any teacher really tried it, they would be fired. As a result these parents never get the direction that they and their children need.

By the way,,,,,having to be herded about by these feral children the wonderful "socialization" that homeschoolers are missing?
132 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:40 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Parents have more control than they think in every situation. Just because a child attends public school, that does not mean they will grow up to be some drug and sex crazed addict.

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It is only by pure luck.

I have known many wonderful parents with large families and successful children. Sadly some of these children turned out well and some are drug addicted, crime prone adults.

Why is this? Same parents. Some good children. Some rotten kids.

EVERY ONE of these parents have told me that the children who are breaking their hearts were seriously influenced by the "friends" made in their government schools. This is the wonderful "socialization" and crap shoot that homeschooled children are missing.
133 posted on 08/06/2006 8:12:43 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Based on my experiences with these kids and many others over time, I find that some homeschoolers are wonderful kids with gracious manners and social ease and others are down right obnoxious.

You could be describing any group of kids, public, private or homeschooled.

134 posted on 08/06/2006 8:13:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SoftballMominVA

>Just because a child is homeschooled, that does not mean they will grow up to be a stellar adult.<

LOL! Few of us do no matter where we were schooled. But most homeschoolers stand a much better chance to do that these days than those attending public schools.


145 posted on 08/06/2006 8:42:12 PM PDT by Paperdoll (........Washington Staters, Vote for McGavick!)
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To: SoftballMominVA


Also, see my post #51.


148 posted on 08/06/2006 8:43:31 PM PDT by Paperdoll (........Washington Staters, Vote for McGavick!)
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To: SoftballMominVA
I am a public school teacher and I have encountered multiple homeschooled children in one way or another. Some have entered public school after home schooling--there are 2 homeschooled kids on my daughter's softball team--there are 5 or more at our church. Based on my experiences with these kids and many others over time, I find that some homeschoolers are wonderful kids with gracious manners and social ease and others are down right obnoxious.

We have always been heavily involved in our homeschool community, and we have been around literally HUNDREDS of homeschoolers. And guess what? I AGREE that not all homeschooled kids are well-behaved... at least not 100% of the time. Mine aren't perfect, either. And we've come across one or two kids who were downright obnoxious bullies. (The moms who think their kids need to be disciplined are not the problem. The moms who shrug it off are).

Nevertheless, the vast majority of the homeschooled kids we've met are very nice. And, what I'm referring to as an "obnoxious bully" would fit in well in a public school setting. They were obnoxious only compared to the other homeschoolers.

It all comes down to the parents and the reason they're homeschooling. Not everyone shares the same philosophy. And, while I'm airing that dirty laundry, I should add that we live in a blue state where roughly half the homeschoolers are on the Far Left. :-(

167 posted on 08/06/2006 10:12:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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