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Wading into another debacle (nanny state to the rescue)
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | 08/05/06 | Editorial

Posted on 08/05/2006 5:11:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58

Coming to every school in Connecticut: a state-mandated swimming pool? The idea is not that far-fetched if you follow the thinking of people alarmed by the recent spate of drownings in Connecticut.

Here's the road map: Several young people, mostly minorities who were non-swimmers, drowned this summer. In Connecticut, this constitutes a moral crisis requiring -- what else? -- a government solution.

An analysis of selectively culled and tortured data from the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control reveals America has a "swimming gap," with racist origins, of course. Minority children 10 to 14 are more than four times as likely to drown than their white peers because, according to The Hartford Courant, Southern plantation owners prevented slaves from learning to swim so they would be less likely to escape. "(M)inority groups have historically been underrepresented in swimming lessons for a variety of reasons, including economics. Pools are sparse in the urban areas where so many minority families live."

This apparently compels the state to go off the deep end. One solution being bandied about would add to public-school curriculums a requirement that students get five hours of swimming lessons per year beginning in kindergarten. Of course, that would require the construction (with union labor) of hundreds of new school pools at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars, plus the hiring of many more (unionized) gym teachers/swimming instructors. It's a state mandate waiting to happen. Opponents will be condemned as racists, and if that fails, there's always the old saw: "If it saves one life, it would be worth it."

No one would argue children should be taught to swim, but no drowning crisis exists. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 782 American children 14 or under drowned in 2003, the last year for which statistics are available, but drowning rates have been declining steadily in recent decades. Each drowning is a tragedy, but the National Safety Council says the average American child is more likely to die in a plane crash than drown accidentally.

Just about every municipality, as well as YMCAs and other nonprofit groups, offer swimming lessons at reasonable prices; most provide discounted or free lessons to low-income families.

The responsibility for teaching children to swim belongs to their parents, not the state. It's saner, simpler and far less expensive than another massive government debacle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: drowningcrisis; govwatch; healthypeople; healthypeople2010; ignorant; nannystate; stupidlazy
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To: Tax-chick

Stop sounding logical!

Healthy People 2010 plans on making mini communities out of the schools.

Onsite clinics, breakfast, lunch and dinner, pools.

I think the kids are suppose to sleep there too because I saw a junk science study come out about kids low performance in school due to lack of sleep.

The powers that be will need to monitor that.


41 posted on 08/05/2006 8:05:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Graybeard58
Fear is a learned reaction.

I totally agree with you.

She wears the life jacket when we are over at our friends because there is a steep drop from the shallows and depending upon the tide it can be hard to judge where it is. Especially for a little one. Also, the wakes from the boats coming through there can cause some hefty swells.

42 posted on 08/05/2006 8:06:44 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Calpernia

I glanced through that thread..........but didn't get into it when I got home from work because of the numbers of the posts.

SHEESH.


43 posted on 08/05/2006 8:08:11 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Old Professer

duh.

I was thinking totals not percentages.

My mistake.


44 posted on 08/05/2006 8:08:30 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: mouse_35
People of African origin have bones that are more dense and a lower percentage of body fat. People of Irish descent, ditto.

While these facts are true in a real world" kind of sense, they are not "officially" true. A government program to get large numbers of children of African origin into swimming pools may have unintended consequences.....

45 posted on 08/05/2006 8:22:14 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Graybeard58
Jeez. Don't let W hear about this. He'll propose another Federal program: The Department of Homeland Swimming.

In the interest of bi-partisinship, the President will appoint well known swimmer, Senator Ted Kennedy to oversea the department.

Senator John Kerry, Democrat MA will be responsible for developing the swimming training curriculum.


46 posted on 08/05/2006 8:31:49 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64

LOL, was that necessary?


47 posted on 08/05/2006 8:32:47 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: USMA '71
Don't be so sure. If the Democrats win control of the Congress this year, we will be a Socialist country before you hit 50!

I think you missed the memo. It began with FDR, and is being strongly perpetuated by Democrats and Republicans alike. Most recently, witness W's signing of, No Child Left Behind, and Medicare Prescription Drugs bills.

48 posted on 08/05/2006 8:36:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Connecticut has minorities??? Oh. They're probably referring to people with net worths under a million dollars.

Nope. All the wealthy ones moved to Dallas.

49 posted on 08/05/2006 8:38:36 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Gabz

Thing about that is.....it was YOUR choice as the PARENT, not the government! Grrrrrrrrr


50 posted on 08/05/2006 8:55:55 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: DAC22
Sigh.... I'm 47, thankfully I'll be dead before full socialism is in effect nation wide.

Bigger sigh... I'm 62. And mostly glad of it. I'm hoping to be gone before all the really bad stuff starts.

The Second American Revolution is coming. To borrow a line from Mike, it will be over borders, language and culture.

51 posted on 08/05/2006 9:18:01 PM PDT by upchuck (Me wish for Democrats to die? No, I just want them to develop Tourette's Syndrome. ~American Quilter)
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To: Graybeard58
Even if this were true, it passes my understanding as to how it has any relevance to people today.

You, and any other person with a modicum of common sense...

the infowarrior

52 posted on 08/05/2006 9:36:31 PM PDT by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 08/05/2006 10:01:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Graybeard58

Let me guess, they need to raise tobacco and alcohol taxes to pay for them, right?

In a somewhat unrelated, but related manner, just today I received an advertisement from Scott's Corporation asking me to sign up for their lawn care service. I'm sure you all recall them as being one of the companies that have decided to test employees for off the job tobacco use and fire them if they ever smoke, anywhere.

Being the evil smoker I am, I sent it back with "WARNING: Sent by a smoking household" on the outside of the envelope. Inside, instead of the application order sheet, I wrote the following in a note; "Thank you for considering me for this service. However, I feel compelled to decline due to my being a tobacco user and your companies senibility against tobacco. As you are so concerned about the use of tobacco, a legal product, I would not like to subject any of your employees to my smoke. Again, thank you for thinking of me and I sincerely do regret my having to sever our over 30 year relationship of my using your product."


54 posted on 08/05/2006 10:08:47 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: Calpernia
Healthy People 2010 plans on making mini communities out of the schools.

It seems like they had this plan when I was a child in the 70's, too. Fortunately, the public doesn't seem to go for it much!

55 posted on 08/06/2006 4:32:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: Tax-chick

But now they have the grant monies to bribe the politicos.

All fifty states have already signed on and are contractually obligated to inact the terms and conditions of the grant money. If not, the money has to be paid back. And the politicos immediately dump the monies down their rat holes.

http://www.phf.org/hp2010/ac1/efox.htm

(snip)

All 50 States are now participating in the Behavior Risk Factor Surveillance System, providing the opportunity to create an interstate network of information on risks to health. Some 39 States have legislative mandates to collect uniform hospital discharge data.


56 posted on 08/06/2006 4:52:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Ah, that does make a difference. Sheesh!


57 posted on 08/06/2006 5:22:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: Tax-chick

Scary


58 posted on 08/06/2006 5:26:28 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DakotaRed

VERY well done!

Bump!


59 posted on 08/06/2006 5:28:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: mouse_35

"People of Irish descent, ditto."

I'm Irish and a female. I'm a floater in water, but put a beer in front of me and I sink to the bottom of it, every time! It must be genetic. ;)


60 posted on 08/06/2006 5:45:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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