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CAN PLEAS FOR PEACE DEFEAT A CULTURE OF TERRORISM?
NY Times via Kansas City Star ^ | Aug. 02, 2006 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 08/04/2006 6:30:39 PM PDT by neverdem

There are victory markers strewn across southern Lebanon commemorating the last time Israel withdrew from that land. While reporting a piece for The New Yorker a few years ago, Jeffrey Goldberg would come upon them by the roads.

One brightly colored sign, written in both Arabic and (rough) English, marked the spot where “On Oct. 19, 1988 at 1:25 p.m. a martyr car that was booby-trapped with 500 kilograms of highly exploding materials transformed two Israeli troops into masses of fire and limbs.”

Busloads of tourists would take victory tours and stop at the prominent sights. Before the current war, there were gift shops and, in at least one place, a poster showing a Hezbollah fighter lifting a severed Israeli head. It all testified to the magnetism of a successful idea: that Muslim greatness can be restored through terrorism.

Some people believe that terrorists are driven by desperation, but if you read the statements by Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and other Hezbollah leaders, it’s obvious that their movement has been inspired by opportunity and nourished by success. And the big news last week was that most of the world was calling for an immediate Lebanese cease-fire and another Israeli withdrawal.

If that happens, Nasrallah will be able to build another chain of victory markers.

Many of those calling for this immediate cease-fire are people of good will whose anguish over the wartime suffering overrides long-term considerations. Some are European leaders who want Hezbollah destroyed but who don’t want anybody to actually do it. Some are professional diplomats, acolytes of the view that holds that “talks” and “engagement” can iron out any problem.

The best of them have a serious case to make. It’s true, they say, that Israel may degrade Hezbollah if it keeps fighting, but it may also sow so...

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; davidbrooks; hezbollah; lebanon; no; nytreasontimes; terrorism; treasonmedia

1 posted on 08/04/2006 6:30:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I guess we'll find out in another 25 years if what they are doing is working.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 6:31:51 PM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: neverdem
CAN PLEAS FOR PEACE DEFEAT A CULTURE OF TERRORISM?

Ah,.............No.

Next question.

3 posted on 08/04/2006 6:33:43 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: rovenstinez
25 is very optimistic. In less then 10 Iran will have the bomb.
4 posted on 08/04/2006 6:35:14 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: neverdem

I think their will soon be a civil war in the Peace Movement


5 posted on 08/04/2006 6:36:18 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

Should read:

I think there will soon be a civil war in the Peace Movement


6 posted on 08/04/2006 6:39:08 PM PDT by woofie
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To: MarineDad

Agreed. And Agreed with Rush, Total victory is essential before these jokers will stop.


7 posted on 08/04/2006 6:40:12 PM PDT by az1roadrunner
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To: neverdem

Short answer: No. The present conflict is like a pimple- if you wait until it is ripe, once you start to pop it, it won't heal up unless you get all the puss out.


8 posted on 08/04/2006 6:51:02 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: woofie
I think there will soon be a civil war in the Peace Movement

What makes you say that, who against whom?

9 posted on 08/04/2006 6:51:06 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Cindy Sheehan vs Michael Moore


10 posted on 08/04/2006 6:52:41 PM PDT by woofie
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To: neverdem

I believe this would significantly improve our strategic position in the War on Terror.

We should destroy the Iranian oil industry. By Bombing all oil transportation facilities, pipelines, storage tanks, tanker trucks, rolling stock, refinery’s etc… we can cripple the funding of numerous terrorist organizations, Hezbollah, Hama’s, Sadr’s militia, Syria, as well as make it more difficult for Iran to buy missiles and such from North Korea, China, and Russia.
It would remove Iran’s threat that if we attack they will shut off the oil. Making the threat ridiculous and demonstrating that they are a single product state and without oil, and no other product that the world wants, they are nothing. Additionally, by declaring that we will destroy any reconstituting oil industry as long as the Mullacracy remains in charge, we can focus the Iranian’s blame for the situation, on the Theocracy and their support of Terrorism.
This will also bring home to all the other oil producing countries like Venezuela, Libya, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, etc… that they are very vulnerable to the same tactic.
In addition, this will gain us time for the Iraqi’s to stand on their own, and free up troops we would need if we have to go into Iran, North Korea or somewhere else.
Sure the price of gas will rise, but this will also demonstrate to the world that the USA is not in Iraq for the Oil, and the onus can be shifted on to the Democrats for not allowing more domestic production.
“It’s not the control of the spice but the power to destroy the spice that is the real power.”
It has recently been said that the nuclear production facilities in Iran are so deep underground that we can’t reach them with conventional weapons. Perhaps so, but maybe we can starve those facilities of funds. Nuclear weapons are terribly expensive to build, and if Iran now needs all its money to repair vital life supporting infrastructure, it may have to slow or stop its attempt to build an atomic bomb.
Finally, Iran is a state sponsor of Terrorists, it must be punished, and it must be seen to be punished. Iran’s continued sponsorship of terror is a slap in America’s and President Bush’s face, and it must be answered.
The following was written in response to an objection I received about having to pay more for fuel if this strategy was followed.
I think you are overly concerned about the economic considerations, and not concerned enough about the need to prosecute the War on Terror to the utmost.
1. The US has a full Strategic Petroleum Reserve of 700 million Barrels, and we aren't the only nation with an SPR. What good is it if you never use it? The average price paid on that 700 million barrels was $27, so the nation would actually make a profit selling it now.
2. The only reason the US isn't energy independent now is because of political factors. 2 Trillion Barrels of oil in oil shale (see www.oiltechinc.com). Any organic matter can be turned into fuel (see www.powerenergy.com). The US would and should be using much more Nuclear power if it wasn't for the Ecofreaks. There are also many areas in the US that are now off limits to drilling. All it takes is the political will to develop all of these. Higher fuel prices will provide that political pressure.
3. Iran is using diplomatic processes, just like the Nazi's before them. Talking is a waste of our time.
4. Iran subsidizes gas at $.10 a gallon, so by destroying the Iranian oil industry not only do we instantly remove 20% of their GDP. We put them all on foot, and in the dark.
5. The mullahs want to take their world back to the 7th century, we should assist them.


11 posted on 08/04/2006 9:02:14 PM PDT by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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To: neverdem
CAN PLEAS FOR PEACE DEFEAT A CULTURE OF TERRORISM?

No. The concept of mercy is neither familiar nor theirs to dispense.

Respect is earned, not begged.

12 posted on 08/04/2006 9:55:26 PM PDT by IronJack
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