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Boys arrested for aiming toy gun at woman (Montgomery County Nanny State Alert!)
The Gazette (Mont. Co.) ^ | Aug. 1, 2006 | Olivia Doherty

Posted on 08/02/2006 9:42:22 AM PDT by markomalley

Two Potomac teens were arrested for flashing a toy gun at a woman last week...

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At about 9:55 p.m. on Thursday, a 29-year-old Rockville woman reported that two boys had aimed a gun at her while driving near the intersection of Westlake Drive and Tuckerman Lane in Bethesda...

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The brothers were arrested and charged as juveniles with first-degree assault and released to the custody of their father, police said.

Under state law, first-degree assault is a felony that can carry a maximum penalty of 25 years in prison.

Using a toy weapon in a crime carries the same charge and possible jail time as using a real weapon, police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.net ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: bethesda; montgomerycounty; nannystate; potomac; toygun; yougottabekidding
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To: MineralMan

Amen, brother mineralman. It is not even nice to point a finger at someone.


41 posted on 08/02/2006 10:10:42 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ((Newt is great in 2008))
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To: gaijin

I saw teens in the first line.


42 posted on 08/02/2006 10:10:56 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Stingray51
Whatever happened to getting pulled over for a stern warning from a police officer?

If a cop had been the primary witness, that's probably all that would have happened. However, since the woman reported it after the fact (probably embellished with a bit of indignation), and the initial police investigation (finding the toy guns) seemed to support the woman's account of the story, the cops have to let things play out for a bit. I expect it will ultimately be dismissed.
43 posted on 08/02/2006 10:11:42 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: markomalley

No doubt youngsters playing Cowboys & Indians and pretending to kill the Indians could get them the death penalty!


44 posted on 08/02/2006 10:12:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Tijeras_Slim; cyclotic

 

 

I personally don't see it: confusing an Airsoft with the real thing. But that's just me, I guess.

Maybe simple observation and common sense is so rare in Montgomery County that the cops need to focus on it (rather than dealing with gangs, drugs, and other less important issues) /sarc

45 posted on 08/02/2006 10:13:02 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley
I didn't see a quote from the "authorities," but don't they usually say "we take this very seriously?" Ages 13 & 16 - obviously kids, but this is Montgomery county MD where gun control is one of the top priorities of the residents.

I have a theory about this. Since Montgomery cty surrounds DC and most of the residents there are dependent upon the taxes plundered from the rest of the country, they worry about peoples' ability to resist tyranny. If actual resistance happens, then they won't be able to swill from the public trough and will actually have to find useful work for a living, so anything that diminishes the power of the people and increases the power of the government sounds good to them.

46 posted on 08/02/2006 10:13:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: raisincane
And if all the caps did not shoot, you layed them on the sidewalk and hit them with a hammer!

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Introduced my grandson to that just last week.

47 posted on 08/02/2006 10:13:43 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: markomalley

"I personally don't see it: confusing an Airsoft with the real thing. But that's just me, I guess. "

I dunno. I used to build model cars and planes when I was a kid. A little jar of black paint and a brush, and that orange disappears. Kids do it all the time. Feels more real to them, that way.


48 posted on 08/02/2006 10:15:15 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: No Blue States

Stupidity. And I find Law enforcement cupable for going along with this stupidity.


49 posted on 08/02/2006 10:15:30 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Stingray51
Cuffing, transporting and charging a 13 year-old with a serious felony sounds extreme in this case.

Par for the course in the People's Democratic Republic of Montgomery County.

50 posted on 08/02/2006 10:15:47 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: American_Centurion

It's a good thing that it probably wouldn't even make it to the point of having charges filed, let alone go to a jury trial then. If I'm stationary at a stop light and have access to my handgun, and can't evade in any way, I'd do what I had to do. Why could you not be sure of what's behind it? Most handgun bullets would have a difficult time making it through two layers of glass, let alone a car body.

I submit that it is stupid 99% of the time to NOT engage a threat in another vehicle if you can't evade. What are you going to do, sit there and be a good target?


51 posted on 08/02/2006 10:16:52 AM PDT by Diggler
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To: MarkL

You make good points, but the punishment doesnt really fit the crime in this case..for a toy gun NOT used as if it were a real gun. imo.

The context wasnt that they tried to rob a store with toy guns or mug someone, they could be boys playing cops and robbers.


52 posted on 08/02/2006 10:23:20 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: MineralMan

i taught my kids what i was taught...all guns are real, there is no such a thing as a toy gun..........if these kids had pointed it at me, they would be pushing daisies now.


53 posted on 08/02/2006 10:23:59 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Time to bring back tar and feathering.)
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To: Clock King

I agree, what happened to all the good cops who used wisdom, discretion, and applied the spirit of the law over the letter?


54 posted on 08/02/2006 10:24:36 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Diggler

How exactly do you plan on shooting them?

A. Through your windsheild? Better have a .45 if you want to have a chance of your bullet getting through, then you still don't know where the first one is going due to trajectory change.

B. Stick your arm out the window and fire with no sight picture? Yeah way to know your target.

C. Get out of your vehicle take cover and engage? Wouldn't you wonder why they didn't shoot yet? If they are driving away and you still engage, then you are shooting a fleeing person who didn't shoot at you, you are wrong.

Can't think of a single quick way to do it, and still have confidence I'm doing right. Maybe you can, but your arguments so far do not convince me.


55 posted on 08/02/2006 10:25:09 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: No Blue States

FWIW, the local talk-show radio program here suggested that a precipitating factor in the policeman's actions was the "attitude" shown to him by the father and the two boys. It's possible that had they shown the cop a little more respect, they may have gotten away with just a warning.


56 posted on 08/02/2006 10:30:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: COBOL2Java

Oh that does shed some light.
Sounds about right, I cant blame the cop too much if they
treated him like crap if he had just planned to warn them.


57 posted on 08/02/2006 10:32:50 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: LIConFem
oops, DOH!

Capitol

Noth that there isn't plenty of both feloniousness and stupidity on capitAl hill:-)
58 posted on 08/02/2006 10:35:36 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: COBOL2Java

Respect your overlords or they will use their power to "adjust your attitude".



59 posted on 08/02/2006 10:35:43 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Squawk 8888

Read the article:

"Inside the car, the officer found two toy guns, one of which appeared to be a submachine gun."


60 posted on 08/02/2006 10:35:52 AM PDT by rwa265
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