8/2 Middle East Live Thread

8/1 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/2/06 | BurbankKarl

[BurbankKarl]

IDF: 400 Hezbollah down, 1200 to go

Report: 'Unprecedented' IAF presence over Baalbeck IDF commandos conducting raid deep in Lebanon; 3 soldiers killed in south Lebanon village

Israel sends up to 10,000 troops into southern Lebanon

Israeli Commandos Raid Hezbollah Hideout in Baalbek Hospital

[harwood]

Hizbollah claims to have sunk Israeli warship off Tyre

Pics:

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.alwatanvoice.com/arabic/news.php%3Fgo%3Dshow%26id%3D52201&prev=/language_tools

Can anyone confirm this?

[RDTF]

CNN Breaking News email just now:

-- Israeli military resumes airstrikes on Lebanese capital, saying it is aimimg at Hezbollah targets in Beirut.

[RDTF]

haven't heard that

[RDTF]

betcha it's an alias

[mware]

They did damage an Israeli warship during the first week of fighting.

[Hayzo]

This was a rumor started by hezzie TV, that Israel has denounced earlier this morning. They are making all sorts of wild claims of Israeli defeats to keep the Arab world motivated and feeling confident.

[Bahbah]

the Israelis need to make them and all the radicals certain that terrorism leads to utter defeat.

I don't disagree. However, it's not just Lebanon that provides a nest for these vipers. If it is to be done, it can't just be Lebanon and it can't just be the Israelis, it seems to me at least.

[McGavin999]

I think you are absolutely right about that. The thing is to convince them. This whole thing started when I said we need to be shouting at them all the time that "God is OBVIOUSLY NOT willing" each time they say "Inshallah we will defeat our enemies". We should be saying "If God were willing you would not be living in abject poverty" "If God were willing, you would not be losing every time you attempt to go to war with the west" "What does it take to convince you that GOD IS NOT WILLING!!!!!"

[McGavin999]

Yes, but I don't care how nutso they are as long as they don't hate everyone they meet.

[RobRoy]

>>However, many Westerners get into Islam through Sufism, because they somehow seem to believe that chanting and spinning around and getting dizzy constitute a "mystical experience." The result is that there are some Western-dominated Sufi sects that basically serve as the open door for flaky "seekers." <<

We used to call them "Deadheads". But since Garcia died...

[pinz-n-needlez]

LOL

Pinz

[tsmith130]

They have been saying that for decades yet they keep losing.

Do you think they really believe they keep losing? I don't think they've ever been dealt a strong enough blow to see anything they've done as a loss. I also don't think their egos/religion allow them to see anything that's happened to them as a loss.

In their warped minds, dying as a 'martyr' is a win. Their view of life is what you must go through to get to the real reward...death.

[elpinta]

I'm with ya!
I think they all need to win!!!

EP

[pinz-n-needlez]

Thank you for that link, bnelson. My ignorance is wide ranging, this information provides a valuable context.

Pinz

[Knitting A Conundrum]

02:55 IAF warplanes renew bombing of Hezbollah stronghold in Beirut suburbs (Reuters)
02:15 Report: Explosion heard in Beirut (Reuters)
01:59 IDF soldier killed in fighting in south Lebanon village of Ayta a-Shab (Haaretz)
01:24 IDF tanks and bulldozers enter southern Gaza near Rafah (AP)
01:04 IDF planning S. Lebanon buffer zone similar to that held before pullout (Haaretz)
00:58 Report: IAF strike kills Palestinian militant, wounds two others in Gaza (Reuters)
00:47 IDF soldier seriously wounded, four others lightly hurt, in Ayta a-Shab (Haaretz)
00:37 U.S. court: Victim of Nazi experimentation cannot sue German drug companies (AP)
00:02 Bar Ilan University hosts special summer camp for northern children (Itim)
23:44 Palestinians hurl firebomb at Israeli car south of Nablus; no injuries reported (Itim)
23:26 Jordanian, Egyptian FMs: Israel-Hezbollah violence could lead to Mideast chaos (AP)
23:07 Peretz: Israel won`t succumb to international pressure to end Lebanon offensive (AFP)

[Straight Vermonter]

I agree.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Ynet

Report: IAF strikes Hizbullah headquarters in Beirut
(02:54 , 08.03.06)
Rocket lands near house in Ma'alot area; several people suffer from shock
(02:39 , 08.03.06)
Red Cross to transfer 2 oil tankers to Lebanon
(01:49 , 08.03.06)
Siren heard in Carmiel, Western Galilee
(01:47 , 08.03.06)
Cleared for publication: IDF soldier killed in Aita al-Shaab
(01:45 , 08.03.06)
7 IDF soldiers injured in Lebanon, one severely
(00:59 , 08.03.06)
Palestinian gunman killed from IAF fire near Rafah
(00:53 , 08.03.06)
IAF hits 3 gunmen in southern Gaza
(00:44 , 08.03.06)
Ground forces enter Gaza
(00:19 , 08.03.06)
Air Force targets terror cell near Rafah
(23:55 , 08.02.06)
Jordanian, Egyptian FMs warn Israel-Hizbullah violence could lead to chaos
(23:52 , 08.02.06)

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Arutz
0:32 Aug-03-06
No Injuries in Firebomb Attack
23:52 Aug-02-06
Olmert Under Fire for Pushing Realignment
23:23 Aug-02-06
Funeral Arrangements for Fallen Soldier
22:54 Aug-02-06
Cairo University Students Take Part in Anti-Israel Protest
22:29 Aug-02-06
Reservists Kill 10 Terrorists in Lebanon

[Knitting A Conundrum]

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