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Toyota, Honda report sales jump in July
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Posted on 08/01/2006 5:10:40 PM PDT by SmoothTalker

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1 posted on 08/01/2006 5:10:41 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

Oh my. They must be price gouging. (See any XOM thread.)


2 posted on 08/01/2006 5:20:51 PM PDT by gate2wire
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Can't imagine why trucks that get 11 mpg aren't selling.


3 posted on 08/01/2006 5:21:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: SmoothTalker

It's all about quality! (And Ford/Gm/D-C just don't have it.)


4 posted on 08/01/2006 5:25:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-Rush Limbaugh.)
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My niece is picking up a brand-new 2007 Toyota Scion coupe as we speak.

I begged her to buy Toyota. She'll have that car for 20 years.


5 posted on 08/01/2006 5:33:11 PM PDT by Reddy (America, Bless God!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

DC does have it to some degree, but the domestically-designed GMs sure don't.

Ford tends to be hit and miss, but unlike GM, they don't seem to build anything embarassing any more.


6 posted on 08/01/2006 5:40:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I've been following GM's stock this year.

One thing I'm looking at is Delphi, and what looks to be their using the Pension account to fund their continuing operational deficit - if I'm not mistaken, GM is on the hook for the pensions of Delphi workers (as Delphi was spun off from GM).

To wit, in the Monthly Operating Reports for May and June of this year, an increase of $1.6B was recorded against Pension Obligations (carried under "Liabilities Subject to Compromise" in the Balance Sheet), whereas $1.6B from the "Pension and other postretirement benefit expenses" was used to partially offset the $-1.8B net loss in the June Statement of Cash Flows.

If my admittedly facile understanding of this issue is correct, then decreased sales at GM aren't the only thing the General has to be worrying about.

(Anybody?)

7 posted on 08/01/2006 5:46:28 PM PDT by Hoplite
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The "Big 3" dinosaurs of Detroit (Ford, GM and Chrysler) are in deep trouble. The imports - particularly the Japanese imports (Toyota, Honda, Nissan) - are so far ahead of them on quality that even if the Detroit automakers were to bust up the UAW and pull out all the stops to catch up, they would need at least a decade to pull even. And that's only if Toyota, Honda and Nissan stand still.

But they aren't standing still. They are getting better and better at a rapid pace and now they have turned their attention to trucks and SUVs - up to now the only real bright spot in Detroit.

Even more omininously (from the viewpoint of Detroit), the Japanese Big Three have moved onto American turf, building U.S. factories, putting Americans (in mostly red states) to work and blurring the lines between "American cars" and "imports." And they have no UAW to worry about!

What is more American? A Ford made mostly in Mexico and assembled by union workers in Detroit who vote the "straight Democratic ticket" because their pinky-ringed bosses tell them to? Or a Nissan made in Tennessee by non-union workers, most of which go to church on Sundays, vote Republican and aren't afraid to fly the American flag on their front lawns?

What's worse for the Detroit Big 3, who continue to operate in some weird 1968 time warp, is that even once laughed at nameplates like Hyundai and Subaru are now kicking Detroit butt in carmaking. The ways things are going, Ford will soon be replacing Yugo as the butt of car jokes.

8 posted on 08/01/2006 5:48:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am a big fan of urban sprawl but I wish there were more sidewalks)
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Well said!


9 posted on 08/01/2006 5:49:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: SamAdams76

Hear, hear. You absolutely nailed it. I still have my (last) Ford I bought new 11 years ago but once it's done, so am I with Ford, GM, etc. This car has been a POS but I keep it because it's paid for, looks good and still somewhat reliable. The next one will be a Toyota.


10 posted on 08/01/2006 5:55:12 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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NUMMI which manufactures the Pontiac Vibe, the Toyota Corolla, and the Toyota Tacoma is unionized.
11 posted on 08/01/2006 5:55:26 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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As I recall, GM was reported to have an unfunded pension liability in the neighborhood of 10-15 *billion* dollars as far back as the eighties. This during a time of robust sales. No one seemed to wonder then why none of the profits were being plowed into this snowballing liability.


12 posted on 08/01/2006 5:55:51 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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"Can't imagine why trucks that get 11 mpg aren't selling."

When Toyota, Honda, or Nissan make a 4-door truck that can tow 15,000+ lbs and offer a 6-speed manual ... call me, until then their trucks are just fancy toys.


13 posted on 08/01/2006 6:04:48 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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Scion and Prius are really selling. It's the high gas prices. Remember, the Pinto and the Vega were really hot tickets during the last one.


14 posted on 08/01/2006 6:06:38 PM PDT by mysterio
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You won't have to wait too long. The new 07 Tundra is going to be offered in 5.6 V8 and 6.0 TD form.


15 posted on 08/01/2006 6:07:03 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: SamAdams76
Even more omininously (from the viewpoint of Detroit), the Japanese Big Three have moved onto American turf, building U.S. factories, putting Americans (in mostly red states) to work and blurring the lines between "American cars" and "imports."

Another interesting development is that Honda is now exporting cars made in the U.S. to China: Acura TL Becomes First U.S. Model Exported To China By Japanese Luxury Nameplate

16 posted on 08/01/2006 6:16:17 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: SamAdams76
The "Big 3" dinosaurs of Detroit (Ford, GM and Chrysler) are in deep trouble. The imports - particularly the Japanese imports (Toyota, Honda, Nissan) - are so far ahead of them on quality that even if the Detroit automakers were to bust up the UAW and pull out all the stops to catch up, they would need at least a decade to pull even. And that's only if Toyota, Honda and Nissan stand still.

At what point do we stop calling them "imports" - a lot of those are built in the US these days - Toyota has that huge track plant down in San Antonio that they've been building, and I know my Tacoma was built in California (I suppose that's like a foreign country ;-) ).
17 posted on 08/01/2006 6:19:08 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Prodn2000
The new 07 Tundra is going to be offered in 5.6 V8 and 6.0 TD form.

Engine size is not the answer. The issue is the trucks frame and drive train (aka drive axles, differentials, suspensions etc)
Tundra is nothing but a beefier Tacoma with a V8 car engine. You can not compare a 3500 Dodge/Ford/Chevy Truck with an real 1 Ton Diff. in the rear(the size of a small engine) with that puny thing the almighty Tundra offers (that's a 4Runner rear axle).

Again call me when Toyota makes a truck that can move at 18,000 LBS GVW and tow in excess of 15,000 LBS at the same time.

18 posted on 08/01/2006 6:33:30 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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...I'll second that....and I'll buy foreign until they get their act together......period.....


19 posted on 08/01/2006 6:33:43 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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That would be found in Toyota's heavy truck division. Hino


20 posted on 08/01/2006 6:50:33 PM PDT by Deepest South
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